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Old 06-27-2005, 04:25 AM
montechristo montechristo is offline
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Default bottom set, fast flop action

hand I played recently on interpoker. Is this call A) clear cut B) Marginal C) Horrible? Basically just wondering if this call is profitable long term.

I had been watching table for about 5 min. - villain had been playing tight, not getting out of line but I never really saw him play a hand to showdown. My second hand at the table I was dealt AA, made standard $20 open, called by shortstack w/ 22 who flopped bottom set. We were both shortstacked and I bet enough to put him allin by turn, I reloaded to a full buyin (almost) and this hand immediately came up.

hand edited for pertinent info. 6max

Seat 3: villain (£490 in chips)
Seat 5: hero(£479 in chips)

kingking: posts small blind £2
D1ce: posts big blind £5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to hero [4h 4d]
utg: calls £5
villain: raises to £20
hero: calls £20
utg: calls £15
----- FLOP ----- [Ad Ts 4s] UTG checks
villain: bets £40
hero: raises to £105
villain: raises to £470 and is all-in
hero????
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:39 AM
thabadguy thabadguy is offline
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Default Re: bottom set, fast flop action

Id prolly muck this against an unknown.
Conversely, if i feel like i can get opponent to muck, i have done this reraise all-in with AK or so quite often and gotten hands like top 2 and bottom set to muck.
Against a tight straightforward player I muck this, this is one of the few times i would muck a set. I think it is pretty close.
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: bottom set, fast flop action

Raise to 180ish

Ez call

Dont fold this
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Old 06-27-2005, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, fast flop action

move down in stakes if this isn't an instah-call for you.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, fast flop action

A) Call
Most players would not make the huge reraise with a set. They want you to hang around. Most likely AK or flush draw.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, fast flop action

Are you really thinking of folding this?
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Old 06-27-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, fast flop action

I call - big overbet probably means AsKs.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:02 PM
montechristo montechristo is offline
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Default Re: bottom set, fast flop action

I guess I was playing a little out of my league if I was considering a fold here. I really thought that Aces or 10-10 was not a far-fetched possibility... He could put me on the AsKs or similar hand and want to take it down right there?? In retrospect my reasoning was flawed I believe, he would likely call and lead or checkraise a non-spade turn if he had a bigger set. I called.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:20 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: bottom set, fast flop action

I think you are right that you can't rule out AA/TT. But you also can't rule out a million other hands that you are destroying. You are well ahead of his hand range here and that is what is important.
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