Overplayed AJ with A44 flop?

daftdg · #1 06-23-2005, 07:18 PM

Villain is unknown although he's 50/30 over 10 hands.. I was confused on this one.. Any comments on all streets appreciated. Should i be betting this river at all? or is this c/c territory..

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (12.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.75 BB

Roland19 · #2 06-23-2005, 07:56 PM

I call down after the flop. Is this right? I'm not real sure.

aK13 · #3 06-23-2005, 08:02 PM

I call down after the turn raise.

sy_or_bust · #4 06-23-2005, 08:14 PM

Everything is fine except the river. You'll usually tie here, and sometimes lose to quads. Rarely, if ever, will you win. So a bet has no positive expectation, and you should check and call.

Roland19 · #5 06-23-2005, 08:16 PM

If you will rarely, if ever win, why not check fold?

Grease · #6 06-23-2005, 08:25 PM

I like it up to the turn.

Check-call the river. Betting will fold a worse hand (not really possible here) or make a better one raise, which I assumed happened, given the action of the hand.

akvsaq · #7 06-23-2005, 08:32 PM

I agree with everything and I would check/call the river as well. NOW, what if the CO capped the flop instead of just calling? What would you guys do?

Grease · #8 06-23-2005, 08:35 PM

For me, this is about reads. If he's pretty aggressive (hard to tell over 10 hands), then I would lead again and call down, but if he's normal, c/c, or passive, maybe c/f, not sure. I suck at laying down TP, especially because I'm at least alive for a split, if not cracking a 4 outright.

damaniac · #9 06-23-2005, 08:40 PM

You rarely win outright, you will of course usually split with another A. I assume you understood that.

milesdyson · #10 06-23-2005, 08:41 PM

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If you will rarely, if ever win, why not check fold?

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because you might split?