Q9 Straight

clownshoes · #1 06-23-2005, 01:58 AM

SB is a tag
UTG is a huge calling station

Eh?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

sthief09 · #2 06-23-2005, 02:14 AM

I call turn

clownshoes · #3 06-23-2005, 02:18 AM

Yeah thats what I figured
However, would it change anything if it was very likely that UTG was going to call 2 cold?

sthief09 · #4 06-23-2005, 02:19 AM

if he's that bad that you're pretty sure he's calling, then the raise works for me

clownshoes · #5 06-23-2005, 02:43 AM

Ok
Calling is definitely the safest way to go though
Thanks

obithrawn · #6 06-23-2005, 09:44 AM

Can you elaborate on why calling the turn is superior to a raise?

Do you still call here if the pot is HU, or is it a raise then?

clownshoes · #7 06-23-2005, 05:23 PM

More likely then not, given the flop and turn action, the pot is going to be split. So the only way to make extra money would be to keep UTG in the pot. A turn raise is really only going to push UTG out of the pot, on average, without doing anything else thats advantageous.
SB might also be on a bluff and a raise might scare him out so you might as well let him keep betting.
It also saves you some bets when youre actually behind.

adamstewart · #8 06-23-2005, 05:50 PM

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Can you elaborate on why calling the turn is superior to a raise?

Do you still call here if the pot is HU, or is it a raise then?

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I think it's because there's a good chance Hero is currently splitting the pot with SB, so go for the overcall behind you. I suppose we could be worried that SB has J9, but for all the times this happens, it's not worth worrying about (yet).

I still don't know, sthief... SB could very easily have something like two-pair, or an overpair. I still think Hero has to raise the turn.

Adam