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Old 06-23-2005, 01:17 AM
CallMeIshmael CallMeIshmael is offline
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Philosophy > Mathematics > Physics > Chemistry > Biology
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:30 AM
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One of the above is not offered as a bachelor of science.

Do you see why?
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:38 AM
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I don't think it is a stretch to consider all the hard and soft sciences as branches of philosophy, although in modern times that view may come under attack.
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:43 AM
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or

Physics > Chemistry > Biology

Mathematics

Philosophy
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:47 AM
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i see physics and philosophy being more like two sides of the same coin.

chem and bio are just subsets of physics really, so ranking them above physics is just laughable.

math is just something entirely different.. it's more like a language that makes talking about physics easier.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:02 AM
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One of the above is not offered as a bachelor of science.

Do you see why?

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Philosophy is not scientific in nature.


Doesnt mean it isnt > Math, however.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:04 AM
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chem and bio are just subsets of physics really, so ranking them above physics is just laughable.

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Just want to make sure (you didnt misread): you dont think I did right? You're just making a comment, yes?
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:05 AM
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Natural Sciences: How the world (universe) works

Mathematics: Tool kit for the above.

Philosophy: Thinking about thinking - an attempt to understand why the above works or appears to work, or perhaps does not work, or its limitations.

The notion to place things in a simple hierarchy is sometimes misplaced in my opinion.

Things are more like a web, interconnected as a whole but separable into parts, but to understand it fully takes all the various strings.

-Zeno
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:15 AM
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Haven't you ever heard the following:

Philosphy is mostly psychology, psychology is mostly biology, biology is mostly chemistry, chemistry is mostly physics, and physics is mostly math.
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:46 AM
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Natural Sciences: How the world (universe) works

Mathematics: Tool kit for the above.

Philosophy: Thinking about thinking - an attempt to understand why the above works or appears to work, or perhaps does not work, or its limitations.

The notion to place things in a simple hierarchy is sometimes misplaced in my opinion.

Things are more like a web, interconnected as a whole but separable into parts, but to understand it fully takes all the various strings.

-Zeno

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Indeed. This whole ordering of things thing is pretty silly and a bit nonsensical. Especially this particular order with philosophy out front (assuming that the ">" is to be interpreted as "greater than"). It says more about the person making the assertion than about anything else. Personally, I think that any modern philosopher with any kind of clue must immerse himself in the current research in the fields of Cognitive Science/Neuroscience and Quantum Mechanics - especially CogSci.

-Travas
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