When is a straight no good...?

dawade · #1 06-22-2005, 06:42 PM

Villian seems like a pretty solid player for the most part. After 31 hands 32/16/2.83...did I wuss out and fold the winner here or is there reason to believe I'm behind to the flush?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: (11.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Arcturus · #2 06-22-2005, 06:45 PM

Call. Chances are you are beat, but not 93% of the time.

Hojglad · #3 06-22-2005, 06:45 PM

Every time you make a fold like this on the river, a fairy dies.

Fishlips_Jones · #4 06-22-2005, 06:46 PM

I think I call this down. He might make this play with a set or two pair as well as a flush.

Fishlips

Ortho · #5 06-22-2005, 06:47 PM

Yes, I believe that this is a horrible fold. You only have to win here 1 in 12.5 times.

atnels · #6 06-22-2005, 06:47 PM

This river fold really upsets me.

milesdyson · #7 06-22-2005, 06:48 PM

villain had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q.

so this hand is showing that you would fold the turn without the Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] here?? so you'd also drop two pair and you'd call a set but fold for the last river bet?

Dave G. · #8 06-22-2005, 06:52 PM

Sure, there's reason to believe you're behind the flush... when you reraise the turn and he caps.

I think you suffered from pink skirt syndrome here. Reraise the turn. You are still likely to have the best hand, and if you don't, you have a redraw to the second nuts flush. If he caps, then you might suspect the flush, but until then, you need to push this [censored].

This river fold is awful. If he's a solid player on a flush draw, why did he not raise the flop? He had a perfect opportunity to trap 3 players for extra bets. He could be raising a lot here, 2 pair, a set, even a bluff.

Now you might say a bluff isn't likely. But if you've been routinely making these folds on the river, and he's good enough to notice it, he might have picked you as an easy target to bluff. This hand pretty much proves that.

gvibes · #9 06-22-2005, 07:16 PM

I like a turn 3-bet as well.

aK13 · #10 06-22-2005, 07:33 PM

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