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Old 06-22-2005, 04:55 PM
twomarks twomarks is offline
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Default Overvaluing JJ...Again?!?

It's the second level in a 10+1 on Ultimate Bet and following happens:

I do not have the hand history but I do remember quite clearly.

Blinds: 15/30

Position 1 posts SB
Position 2 posts BB
Position 3 folds
Position 4 (t380) goes all-in
Position 5 (t1400) calls
Position 6 folds
Position 7 folds
Position 8 folds
Position 9 folds
Position 10 (HERO) (t1500) has JJ action?

Position 4 was very loose and was already getting acting desperate, Position 5 was aggressive raising w/ KTo and such.

Suggestions please...I'll post results in white below and what my train of thought was after a few replies.

Thanks in advance,

twomarks

Results:

<font color="white"> Results: Pos 4 turns over QQ, Pos. 5 turns over AA, I flop a third Jack and start making sacrifices immediately to the poker gods. </font>
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:13 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing JJ...Again?!?

POOSH. Your opponents suck here, JJ is a great hand to play, you're getting 2:1 if Villain folds.

Push it!
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:14 PM
TStokes TStokes is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing JJ...Again?!?

I am folding here and not thinking twice about it. Your hand is not good enough to face two all ins. If seat 5 doesnt call Ill go all in but otherwise there is no reason to go in here.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:15 PM
twomarks twomarks is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing JJ...Again?!?

I did indeed push here, and of course got called by the wired aces. I thought the push might be correct, but I just felt a little dirty after the third jack fell.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:15 PM
TStokes TStokes is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing JJ...Again?!?

Nevermind my post I thought that seat 5 had pushed all in. I am still not sure that I would push though but I dont like taking chances like this early in tournies.
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:05 PM
NYCNative NYCNative is offline
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Default Re: Overvaluing JJ...Again?!?

I would fold because I want better than Jacks with two all-in calls. The best case is two underpairs, naturally, but more often even if you're not dealing with AA, KK or QQ you are dealing with someone with unpaired big overcards and that's at BEST a coinflip. Right now, you don't need to risk it.
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