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Old 06-22-2005, 02:22 PM
Scott_Baio Scott_Baio is offline
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Default To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.16 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (12.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero ???

Would you bet/fold, bet/call, or check/call here?
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:24 PM
RiverTheNuts RiverTheNuts is offline
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Default Re: To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

nm... I check/call but Im weak .. I don't like bet/folding unless the raiser puts in a raise after someone else calls... the bluff raise HU here is very possible I think
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:25 PM
Dariel86 Dariel86 is offline
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Default Re: To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

Bet/call is not an option here IMO
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: To value bet jacks or not to value bet jacks.

Value. For future reference.

Um, what kind of reads do you have on these guys? If they are really LP, then I bet, but if they're TP, then I check or bet/fold. They could really have anything because they have done nothing but call.

I would probably bet this and be tempted to call a raise (barring a read).
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:27 PM
crunchy1 crunchy1 is offline
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Default Re: To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

No one has shown agression so far, there are plenty of hands that will call one bet, the 9 doesn't complete any draws, with 4 players left there's not much risk of a bluff raise.

Easy value bet.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

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Bet/call is not an option here IMO

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Bet/call is certainly an option here. It just depends on the action.

Rob
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:30 PM
Derek in NYC Derek in NYC is offline
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Default Re: To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

Check, the field is too large and not all of them could be on heart/str8 draws on 4th street.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:32 PM
JoshuaD JoshuaD is offline
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Default Re: To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

I bet out and call a raise depending on the action.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:32 PM
JoshuaD JoshuaD is offline
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Default Re: To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

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Check, the field is too large and not all of them could be on heart/str8 draws on 4th street.

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That's good, otherwise we would be getting no value from a bet.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:34 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: To vaule bet jacks or not to vaule bet jacks.

I value bet. There is no reason to believe that one of these players has a Q. You have no reads, they could have flush draw/straight draw/a 7/ a 5/88/etc.
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