Is the pot too small to raise on the flop?

[Iq75]

I had played only 20 hands whit the villain and he appeared to be kind of loose (limped A9o UTG earlier) playing maybe half of his hands. He did not appear to be particularly aggressive or passive.

Pasific 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 4 folds, button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img](4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, SB folds, Hero raises, UTG folds, Button calls.

At this point I put that villain in an flushdraw, straightdraw or Kx. It was also possible that the bet was a positionbet although the K on board makes it less likely. So I raised, cause I thought that there is a good chance that I have the best hand. Was the pot too small to make a play like that?

After that I was kind of lost. UI i just wanted a showdown as cheaply as possible.

Turn: (4 BB) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (4 BB) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 4 BB

Should i bet the turn or the river?

[NDHand]

I really don't like that raise in a 4SB pot

[therockofgibraltar]

What should you do? I am a scuker in these middle pair hands.

I find myself constantly in a situations where I have a middle pair, the pot is small and 3-4 players.

What to do when first to act? If you are last, you can just calculate the pot odds and go from there.

[NDHand]

The pot is small, you might be behind, your hand isnt that strong and on this board, even if you're ahead, you might run into a flush (or even an unlikely straight). A clear check/fold on the flop. (unless the pot offers much better odds when its back to you but in this case even if it was 7SB and 1 bet back to him it still isnt enough for a 5-outters with the heart outs possibly tainted. Fold.)

[Webster]

Middle pair, top card lower then board - it's time to leave that hand and do battle another day.


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[TimsterToo]

Seeing as you've already bet the flop I would tend to do one bet on the turn just to see if I can win the pot there and then. (providing that villain is not a known calling station of course)

[davelin]

If you're going to raise the flop like that, you really have to bet the turn here.

[jrz1972]

Fold the flop. This is not a close decision.

[davelin]

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Fold the flop. This is not a close decision.

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Eh, it's closer than you think IMO.

[Iq75]

If the villain holds a flush draw, lets say AJ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], my pot equity against him is something like 47 % if UTG folds to my raise. If he holds a K, lets say KJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], my equity is something like 18 %. If the villain does not hold 2 pair or a set, that would give me something like 30 – 40 % of pot equity (depending what sort of hands the villain limps, and how often he autobets whit nothing on the button if checked to) on the flop. If he calls, I’m getting 3:1 on the flop.

I have been thinking this all day, and i do think that folding is the right decision, cause I’m cutting it with those odds very slim, UTG is yet to act, button might 3 – bet me, he might have a set or 2 pair and i'm out of position.

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If you're going to raise the flop like that, you really have to bet the turn here.

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Yep, I should have bet the turn. If he bets the turn I have to call, cause he prob. would bet a 4 flush after i checked. Also if he has the K, he is going to bet, and to balance that I will have to get more bets when he holds the flushdraw.