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Old 06-22-2005, 02:48 AM
Keres Keres is offline
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Default the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

At 1-2, its pretty easy to pick out the clueless. Playing K3o, any two cards pretty much. Last to act and checking when they have the nuts. Some would say "Anyone playing 1-2 is inherently clueless."

3-6, its the guy calling A-10o to two raises cold or 89s UTG at an aggro 2 or 3 to the flop table.

But at the higher limits (80-160+), while I'd guess there is the occasional donk who wanders in, I'd assume the signs that a player is vulnerable for exploitation are a little more subtle.

For the higher limit players, what are some of the subtler plays that an opponent may make (or may not make) that cause to you think "I'm going to be picking off this guy's chips eventually"? Does it just come down to cataloging a player missing bets and the chance to save bets and realizing he's going broke eventually?
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

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At 1-2, its pretty easy to pick out the clueless. Playing K3o, any two cards pretty much. Last to act and checking when they have the nuts. Some would say "Anyone playing 1-2 is inherently clueless."

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So wrong it's not even funny.
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3-6, its the guy calling A-10o to two raises cold or 89s UTG at an aggro 2 or 3 to the flop table.

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Or calling with ATo period. Sounds like you're not the greatest player either.
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

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3-6, its the guy calling A-10o to two raises cold or 89s UTG at an aggro 2 or 3 to the flop table.

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Or calling with ATo period.

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you might want to rethink this
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

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3-6, its the guy calling A-10o to two raises cold or 89s UTG at an aggro 2 or 3 to the flop table.

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Or calling with ATo period.

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you might want to rethink this

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I agree, please explain
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Old 06-22-2005, 07:39 AM
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Default Re: the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

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Or calling with ATo period.

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you might want to rethink this

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I agree, please explain

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I'm guessing that he means there are times to play ATo. It's a reasonable call in late if first in or just a small field with no tight players in, and a call in SB to similar field. It's a raise if you're SB and first in. But that's about it, IMHO.
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Old 06-22-2005, 07:54 AM
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I'm guessing that he means there are times to play ATo. It's a reasonable call in late if first in or just a small field with no tight players in...

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Openlimping with ATo in LP is terrible, although openraising is fine. Overlimping with ATo in LP may be O.K. depending on the field.
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Old 06-22-2005, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

I agree with this. Most preflop errors are open limping when they should be raising and cold calls when the should be raising or folding.
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

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I'm guessing that he means there are times to play ATo. It's a reasonable call in late if first in or just a small field with no tight players in...

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Openlimping with ATo in LP is terrible, although openraising is fine. Overlimping with ATo in LP may be O.K. depending on the field.

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You're right - I shoulda scratched '...if first in...'

Would you say the same for KJoff?
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

In party 5/10 the easies way to spot a moron is if they ever open-limp or cold-call preflop.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: the signs a player notices that indicate a weak opponent

This topic really interests me.

Uh, no, it's not the part about that [censored] 'I coldcall with ATo'. Everyone can be smart about ATo, it's not THAT tough.

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