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Old 06-21-2005, 04:26 PM
arcticfox arcticfox is offline
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Default Too passive on 3rd and 4th?

With a good low draw and multiple people in the pot I always feel uncomfortable raising, am I missing bets here? I got lucky on the river here but had lots of outs to at least split the pot. Any comments on later streets appreciated as well.

7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 3: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (3.20 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (4.10 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds

6th Street - (11.10 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks

River - (11.10 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

Total pot: (13.10 BB)
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:37 PM
djr djr is offline
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Default Re: Too passive on 3rd and 4th?

I like calling on 3rd. you have very weak draws to a high at this point and there are several other people looking like they're going low. A raise won't knock anyone out, so call and see 4th. Odds are you'll catch bad and want to fold 4th anyway.

4th. I call here as well. It seems passive but I think it's the right move given your equity. 3 of your opponents are likely to call the raise (only the 7Jc will probably fold), and you have no idea if you're drawing to a better low at this point. Raising works if you can knock people out (and improve your equity) or if you're ahead for your direction and make money off their calls. You can't assume either at this point. Also your outs are dying. There are only 2 aces and 3 fives unaccounted for. I wouldn't be happy with a seven if the other lows catch better.

5th. 3 betting is risking but a smart play. It more often than not earns you a free card on 6th, which you'll want.


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