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Old 06-21-2005, 02:49 PM
smcannon smcannon is offline
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Default When should I be folding?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: When should I be folding?

pf.

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Old 06-21-2005, 03:02 PM
Fishlips_Jones Fishlips_Jones is offline
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Default Re: When should I be folding?

I would fold preflop.

I think the best way to protect you hand is to lead the turn, call a raise from CO.

River is OK. The flush got there, either CO was betting his flush draw or he has pocket 6's for the full house. Button probably has a small flush.


This is a tuff hand IMO. Folding preflop avoids the mess.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:05 PM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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Default Re: When should I be folding?

Calling a raise with KJo preflop, even in the BB, is a very very very bad thing.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: When should I be folding?

Fold preflop.

On the flop i would've checked with the intention of raising when CO or Button bets. You won't get a flush draw to fold, but you might fold a lone ace. Sure CO or Button could have AK, but they might not.

On the turn and river the pot is too big to fold so i'd call it down.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:07 PM
mmmmmbrother mmmmmbrother is offline
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Default Re: When should I be folding?

i doubt that CO has sixes since he threebet pf.
i think aces would be played the same here?

id check raise the turn and fold to a three bet.
if called then call down the river.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: When should I be folding?

before i opened, I said to myself "preflop", damn Im good

and the flop bet really sucks balls
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:16 PM
imported_The Vibesman imported_The Vibesman is offline
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Default Re: When should I be folding?

With an easily dominated hand and in lousy position you should probably just let it go pre-flop. If for some reason you want to play the hand (say due to the recent action at the table a lot of people playing marginal hands, or you have noticed that Button raises with a very wide range of hands and is passive postflop)then I would raise.

In no way am I advocating that move against an average opponent.

Limp-raises bother me, I'm just never sure what to put a guy on.

Flop turn and river look ok, but I would really hate this hand. If the two pair was good I would be happy and surprised. Still, won't just give someone credit for the flush, so I'd call.
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:44 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: When should I be folding?

I don't fold this hand anywhere depending on who made the preflop raise. If the raiser is &lt; 5 PFR I fold, if he is unknown, I'll call. This is loose, but I do it. (Doesn't make it right.) From the post flop action, you might have been behind AK though until the river J gave you two pair. Hopefully CO didn't have KK for a set or A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] for the flush.

On the flop, I would have checked and called one but folded to two.
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