Difficult Decisions

toss · #1 06-19-2005, 10:34 AM

SB is 61/14/1.22 and he's putting me on tilt with his crazy rivers. BB is 79/3/.61 and he's also chipping away at my stack.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
6 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero does what?

sy_or_bust · #2 06-19-2005, 10:41 AM

Check? BB has some piece and is the sort of player to check and call a non-nut flush here. SB probably has a weaker non-flush hand. SB may fold, BB won't fold, and you'll have the same decision at the river. Better to check now and hope that SB leads the river, when I'd even overcall considering the information given.

Betting isn't bad, but I'm not sure how valuable it is against one or two players who may have baby flushes.

sweetjazz · #3 06-19-2005, 10:42 AM

Check behind and call (even overcall) a river bet?

I'd like to see the river since we have four outs to a boat. And there's not much harm in giving a free card, since our opponents are drawing pretty slim unless one has Ax and neither has a single club. More likely, one of them is getting ready to call down with the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or some such, so there's relatively little value in a bet here as well.

toss · #4 06-19-2005, 10:46 AM

I wished I listened to you guys. Tilt is a bad thing.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
6 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below: 
SB has 3c 7c (flush, ace high).
BB has Ks Kh (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: SB wins 9.50 BB.

imported_PP123 · #5 06-19-2005, 11:36 AM

Why not fold the flop?

toss · #6 06-19-2005, 11:50 AM

SB is a lagtard.

imported_PP123 · #7 06-19-2005, 12:16 PM

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SB is a lagtard.

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I understand it's tempting to call this guy down. But I think it's a big money saver if you let hands like this go. After all, you only have middle pair on a VERY scary board in a small pot were a 3rd player has already said he likes his hand. Your hand is very vulnerble and even if you're ahead at the moment it will be expensive to find out.

If he's bluffing, then well played by him.

I fold this and feel confident that I eventually will take all his money anyway.

toss · #8 06-19-2005, 12:18 PM

Yeah I understand. Discretion is the better part of valor.

einbert · #9 06-19-2005, 01:08 PM

I would just fold the flop I think.

I definitely play the turn and river the same as you.