Ugly top set hand

madscout · #1 06-18-2005, 04:33 PM

What do you think?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (19 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 25 BB

shadow29 · #2 06-18-2005, 04:37 PM

PF and flop are fairly standard I think.

Turn sucks. But you still have 10 outs to the boat or better (which will be a big winner, especially if someone has a flush). You need 3.5:1 to call for 10 outs, and you're definetly getting it here on the turn.

Have to fold the river UI though, as you're definetly drawing on the turn.

Harv72b · #3 06-18-2005, 04:45 PM

I'd like to have some reads on UTG & UTG+1 here, because based on the way this hand played out I'm not so sure you were even drawing live on the turn. With a 4-flush showing & the two of them trying to outraise each other, the possibility of a straight flush has to be considered.

That said, against two unknowns I'm not folding the turn, either. I probably would've led it, though.

madscout · #4 06-18-2005, 06:27 PM

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I'd like to have some reads on UTG & UTG+1 here, because based on the way this hand played out I'm not so sure you were even drawing live on the turn. With a 4-flush showing & the two of them trying to outraise each other, the possibility of a straight flush has to be considered.

That said, against two unknowns I'm not folding the turn, either. I probably would've led it, though.

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Are you arguing for a possible fold on the turn cap, but not on the turn 2-bet?

toss · #5 06-18-2005, 06:30 PM

Nah no way. I don't any of us will ever fold that turn.

KDawgCometh · #6 06-18-2005, 06:33 PM

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Nah no way. I don't any of us will ever fold that turn.

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that why Harv said that we need a good read here to determine what the play is. I'm calling both raises myself against unkowns. Everything here is pretty standard. nh

madscout · #7 06-18-2005, 06:36 PM

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that why Harv said that we need a good read here to determine what the play is. I'm calling both raises myself against unkowns. Everything here is pretty standard. nh

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Ok good.

Villains had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

toss · #8 06-18-2005, 06:39 PM

Bang!