This way or the fast way

[brick]

Average B&M 4-8 table.

I limp UTG with TT.
UTG+1 raises. (younger slightly more agressive guy, he could have a pretty wide range here).
All fold to SB who 3 bets. We call. (I put the SB on a big pair, AK or AQ.)

Flop is:
976r

SB bets. I call. UTG+1 calls.

4h (two hearts)
SB bets. I raise. UTG+1 folds. SB calls.

6s
Sb bets. I fold.

[SmileyEH]

I think raising preflop makes this hand much easier to play. I'd raise the flop how you played it - you want to eliminate UTG+1's overcards.

I'd also call the river.

-SmileyEH

[cjhellm]

You played the flop and the turn very well, but I think you're good enough times to call the river.

[Argus]

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I'd also call the river.

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I don't understand this. Is this an AK donkbet 10% of the time? This really sounds to me like QQ or JJ (senselessly) worried about two pair on the turn.

[UVaHoo]

I also vote for raising preflop, just to get some of the typical B&M 4/8 crap out of the way, as well as due to the fact that you have a good hand.

I don't mind waiting until the turn to raise, but you set yourself up for making a difficult decision on the river by not raising either preflop or on the flop to define your hand.

That said, since it's really hard to define your hand based on how you played it, I would definitely have called the river. If you win 1 out of 10 times, you show a profit, and especially in a B&M room, I think you'll win at least that often.

[brick]

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I also vote for raising preflop, just to get some of the typical B&M 4/8 crap out of the way, as well as due to the fact that you have a good hand.

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There's nothing wrong with raising. I figured we would have a limpfest and so I decided to play it more like 99 than JJ.

[UVaHoo]

Certainly a decent argument can be made for limping hands like this, just to get a huge pot when you do hit your set. I think that in most of the B&M rooms I've played in, you'll still get enough callers to make the raise worthwhile for value, both if you hit your set, and if you flop all undercards.

[brick]

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I'd also call the river.

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I don't understand this. Is this an AK donkbet 10% of the time? This really sounds to me like QQ or JJ (senselessly) worried about two pair on the turn.

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Yeah, don't you guys think AK would be scared senseless by this point?

[UVaHoo]

Do you have any reads on the SB? I know you said you put him on a high pair or AK/AQ, but did you have anything else on his post flop play?

I'm starting to lean toward folding, but to me, I still think I would call getting > 10:1 on the river call.

[brettbrettr]

The only street I like is the turn.

Raise pre-flop. Raise the flop. Folding that river is bad.