Tunnel vision with AA

McNeese72 · #1 06-15-2005, 11:33 AM

Okay, another post from the relatively newbie.

I find that when I get pocket aces dealt to me, I tend to get too excited. I get too focused on my own hand and lose track of what other people might have and who my opponents are. Here is an example

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 6 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (11.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls $0.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: 19.20 BB

Don't have a read on the villain in the BB as I only played 7 hands with him. I guess I should be supicious when he check raised me on the turn. Should have I gone into a call down mode after that or just stayed aggressive?

Hellmouth · #2 06-15-2005, 11:47 AM

Call the check raise on the turn. The river is your call if unimproved. (weak river play: check call; Agressive river play, bet out and either call or fold if raised).

Greg

davelin · #3 06-15-2005, 11:52 AM

Why so damn aggressive on the river?

sholvar · #4 06-15-2005, 11:56 AM

nothin more to say.
I think calldown from turn is okay. that is too aggressive. AA is the best preflop Hand but does not win everytime.

BruinEric · #5 06-15-2005, 12:10 PM

At the turn check-raise with NO reads and at these levels, I either put him on a "slowplayed" 55, x5suited, Q or a J that hit. At these levels, there is a small but real chance that you have a nutball here who will put you on AK and try to push you out of the pot heads-up with garbage.

So, I would call the ck/raise and check-call the river to see what he has. You beat only the lone J above but I pay the bet because I will tilt if I fold to his nutball garbage. Plus, if you are a better/raiser and start folding to a ck/raise, people will start hammering you with zero. (Yes, I'm justifying call-downs here, but this is AA and seeing AA to showdown isn't a huge mistake.)

DeathDonkey · #6 06-15-2005, 12:34 PM

Dude. AA is just one pair.

-DeathDonkey

topspin · #7 06-15-2005, 12:42 PM

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Dude. AA is just one pair.

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You're not reading carefully enough! We improved to TWO pair on the river!!!

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davelin · #8 06-15-2005, 01:06 PM

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Dude. AA is just one pair.

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You're not reading carefully enough! We improved to TWO pair on the river!!!

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Actually we had two pair on the flop, we improved to THREE pair on the river [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

KeysrSoze · #9 06-15-2005, 01:11 PM

Normally I'd put him on a slowplayed AQ or he made top 2 pair on the turn (maybe even donking it up with AJ) more times than a 5, JJ or QQ and might raise too, but when he goes batshit crazy and caps the turn, and especially after seeing that river card, I'm just calling the river here. How can you fold THREE pair here though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ?

topspin · #10 06-15-2005, 01:13 PM

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Actually we had two pair on the flop, we improved to THREE pair on the river [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Touche!