QQ - Raising PF

[smcannon]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

SB (t665)
Hero (t745)
UTG (t955)
UTG+1 (t1630)
MP1 (t995)
MP2 (t695)
CO (t1110)
Button (t1205)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t60</font>, CO calls t60, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">

Hero raises how much?

[Sabrazack]

Im going to rase this up to 120, small enough to get away from a bad flop.

[bluefeet]

Option 1: Simply check. Most any reraise will get called by UTG (and occasionally pushed). You will have a very hard time proceeding out of position with an Ace or King on board. Get in cheap, look to check/raise a safe flop.

Option 2: Push PF. Decent pot already. MP2 might be reluctant to call with CO behind....CO is not calling after simply calling MP2's min-raise. The min-raise from MP2 is a little fishy - eh....lot of fishes though.

[lawrence]

You're not actually suggesting to play QQ passive because an A or K might fall?

[bluefeet]

Nope - simply stating that I would not consider raising. QQ is not a hand I want to take to flop w/ two callers (that have already raised/called) for say...another 20-30% of my stack -- out of position. Under the PP structure, I would choose Option 2 and push PF. Option 1 was presented as an better (IMO) alternative to raising PF. It's a cheap way to play the flop EXTREMELY aggressively OOP.

[pearljam]

I would go all in hear, I dont like putting in a raise of like 300 hear then check/folding the flop if an A or a K comes.

[Yawkey]

I'm not an advocate for pushing all in here (still early), but a good 200 will probably get two callers, 300 may get you heads up if not the win right there. Over 300 and you don't have much to work with post flop. So 200 gets you a pot of 600, 400 of which is not yours, while 300 also gets a pot of 600 but 300 is yours. Depending on how the others have been playing you may favor one over the other, but I like 200 myself.

[flyingmoose]

I'm pushing here. There's a decent pot already and any other raise will either a) commit you, b) be so small that nobody folds.