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Old 06-13-2005, 02:07 PM
TomCollins TomCollins is offline
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Default Banned from Calculus Class - for being white

Student Tries to Sign up for Calculus Class, not allowed since spots reserved for minorities.
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Banned from Calculus Class - for being white

I generally support a school setting its own affirmative action policy in higher education, but that is a bit extreme. Once you get in, it should be a free for all.
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Old 06-13-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Banned from Calculus Class - for being white

What makes thier policy wrong but you affirmitive action policy right?
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Old 06-13-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Banned from Calculus Class - for being white

Racist policies like this are one thing on their own, but we are talking about a University that gets a great deal of its funding from the state of Oregon (correct me if I'm wrong here). Racist policies are bad in general. Racist policies by a state agency are even worse.
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Old 06-13-2005, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Banned from Calculus Class - for being white

Someone who is more knowledgable than myself might know better, but my understanding was the strict quotas/hold-outs have been unconstitutional since Bakke.
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Old 06-13-2005, 04:54 PM
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Indeed. However, they could keep this by simply changing the wording and effectively keeping policy the same. For instance, if they "interviewed" each student, then choose the black students first they would not be working on a "strict quota". Something the more astute members of the supreme court realized and put in thier recent dissents.
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Old 06-14-2005, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: Banned from Calculus Class - for being white

the problem with affirmative action is that it works off racism. it says that certian individuals r not equal to others and need hand-outs in order to reach equality. to accept affirmative action is to accept the fact that u r not equal in the first place.
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Banned from Calculus Class - for being white

Yeah, keeping someone out of the school because of their race is fine, but keeping them out of calculus for one semester because of their race is just wrong.
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Old 06-14-2005, 04:44 PM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Default Re: Banned from Calculus Class - for being white

Hi,
Maybe a bit hijacking, but I do not know so much about that Affirmative Action-thing. The logic behind it is that minorities has been discriminated by society, and thus their children have need for special support, right? Why can't it be organized in a non-racial way by finding better criterias (poor parents etc)? Does it not fuel racism among youth?
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Old 06-14-2005, 05:20 PM
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Affirmitive action has very little to do with finding the best way to help the poor and disenfrachised and a lot more to do with revenege.
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