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Old 06-13-2005, 01:00 PM
chaz64 chaz64 is offline
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Default Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Looks like no one has a set so they are drawing to something, yes?

River: (17.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO folds, Hero ?

Final Pot: 19.50 BB

Annnd we have a straight. Or a flush? Is this worth a call? Comments appreciated.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:09 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

Do you have any reads on SB? His play is consistant with the low end of the str8 draw, but could also be something like QJ/KJ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. What are his calling standards for 2.5sb's?

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Old 06-13-2005, 01:09 PM
imported_The Vibesman imported_The Vibesman is offline
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

It does appear you are beat, but I don't see how you can fold now closing the action, you only have to win this one in 20 times to be correct. Some folks on the low-stakes tables will make crazy bluffs at crazy times. Pray this is one of those times.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:23 PM
caggin caggin is offline
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

No way you can fold here for just one bet and closing the action. Pot's too big. Yeah you're probably beat by a straight or 2 pair, but I think you're good way more often than 1 in 20.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:23 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

Without looking at the hand history except to notice that you're closing the action on the river, the answer is "no."

Now to go back and look at the hand...
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:27 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

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Annnd we have a straight. Or a flush? Is this worth a call? Comments appreciated.

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Or two-pair. Or the same AT he started with. Or a bluff on a busted diamond draw. Call it down and find out.
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

I think you have to make this call for the reasons given above. Its just one bet. If it was two bets, then its a clear fold.
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Old 06-14-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

I definately call getting 20:1. SB could be bluffing with the scare card, at least one in twenty times.
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Old 06-14-2005, 03:24 PM
JerseyTom JerseyTom is offline
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

If you fold this, a million kittens will die.

Seriously...


Tom
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Old 06-14-2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Overpair, huge pot, fold this river for one bet?

Short answer is yes the river bet is worth a call.

The straight and flush draws can easily have missed and SB could be betting with a pair of J's,T's,9's or worse or even making a complete bluff.

You might still have the best hand, so its worth calling the 1 bet. You will only need to win 5% of the time for this call to be profitable.
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