This would solve the bot problem -- make 'em legal

stlip · #1 06-13-2005, 08:02 AM

Designate certain tables that are open to bots. Instead of spending a lot of time programing to avoid detection (or worrying about having accounts seized), developers could simply register their bots honestly and start playing.

At the selected tables all bots could be openly identified in some way. Let the players who think they can handle them have at them. (I think the humans would kick their bot buts, at least for now, but the bots might still do OK if a lot of fish wanted to give it a try, too. Hey, fish already give away their money as it is playing against people far better than them.)

Instead of letting bots be seen as a big potential threat to online poker, make it into a marketing sensation that just helps build even more interest in the sport. Let the world check out the bot standings; the biggest money winners and whether as a group they are even able to turn a profit.

WackityWhiz · #2 06-13-2005, 08:11 AM

jesus... what were u smokin when u thought of this nonsense?

Lets say you're playing madden on xbox and EA sports developed an even harder mode of play than all-madden, lets call it "invincible." The computer would know what play you picked and would have their defenders ready to destroy you everytime. Then when the computer was on offense, they would know exactly what play you picked on defense and they would exploit the weaknesses of your defense. The computer would be absolutely unbeatable.

I'm sure a genius that works for one of the poker sites could develop a bot that could make the game unbeatable. Why would you want to make that legal?

I hope this was a joke

stlip · #3 06-13-2005, 08:33 AM

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The computer would know what play you picked and would have their defenders ready to destroy you everytime. Then when the computer was on offense, they would know exactly what play you picked on defense and they would exploit the weaknesses of your defense.

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It's my turn to ask what you are smoking. What does this example of yours have to do with poker. Do you think bots know what cards you hold in your hand. Or do you think they know what cards are coming next because we all know online poker is rigged and bots get the secret signals direct from the Party servers.

sexdrugsmoney · #4 06-13-2005, 08:43 AM

Ok let's look at this logically.

Bots are legalized, 3rd party bot makers make a fortune, online casinos lose many real customers who don't want to buy a bot or play against them - yet they don't care because either way they get paid in rake ... who wins?

Who does win in a world of bot vs bot? Ask anyone who's plays poker for a living and they'd prefer a soft seat opposed to sitting at a table full of other 'grinders', because where is the profit long term?

Bad idea, bots legalized ... bad.

stlip · #5 06-13-2005, 08:48 AM

The idea has several parts. Making bots legal is one part. You apparently stopped reading and thinking there.

Bots would also be restricted to certain tables and clearly labled. You wouldn't have to ever play against a bot if you didn't want to. Do you have that assurance now?

By your own fear-the-bot logic you should like this idea.

spamuell · #6 06-13-2005, 08:53 AM

I don't see how this would stop people programming or attempting to program undetectable bots like now and using them at tables against people who have not agreed to this.

stlip · #7 06-13-2005, 09:05 AM

That's a problem you already have to worry about.

This doesn't make that situation any worse and it could make it better in two ways.

1) Some people at least would not try to hide their bots if it was no longer necessary.

2) Party or whoever would gain a lot more experience seeing bots openly in operation that could help it refine its efforts to detect any other bots on the site.

spamuell · #8 06-13-2005, 09:12 AM

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That's a problem you already have to worry about.

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Yeah, but the title of your post was "This would solve the bot problem."

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This doesn't make that situation any worse and it could make it better in two ways.

1) Some people at least would not try to hide their bots if it was no longer necessary.

2) Party or whoever would gain a lot more experience seeing bots openly in operation that could help it refine its efforts to detect any other bots on the site.

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I think it would make the situation worse because it would give people an incentive to design bots legally, and the existence of many more bots would undoubtedly lead to more people attempting to hide their bots and use them on tables which they are not allowed to.

Furthermore, there's the psychological aspect of the recreational player who would almost certainly shy away from any site which allows bots to play there, even only on specific tables, just because the whole thing seems so sketchy.

WackityWhiz · #9 06-13-2005, 09:49 AM

sry, i was thinking that you wanted to have a site like party poker put bots at tables for you to play against ... like a computer opponent in a video game.

I'm assuming now that you mean that the average joe could come up with a poker bot and put it up against other poker bots or other people at certain designated tables.

interesting

ps - sorry I was so hateful in my post lol, i haven't gone to bed yet and had a bad session [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Voltron87 · #10 06-13-2005, 10:11 AM

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This would solve the bot problem

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How would it do that? This whole idea is awful.