comments...

[curtains]

I yearn to post a hand where people call me stupid. This one Im basically risking 540 to win 1340 assuming BB folds (which they will a large %, this guy seemed pretty tight). I was of course mocked at the table after the hand....what do you think?


***** Hand History for Game 2197460886 *****
NL Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:13039246 Level:7 Blinds(200/400) - Sunday, June 12, 19:22:56 EDT 2005
Table Table 11709 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: curtainz ( $2320 )
Seat 3: BenFosterPro ( $1608 )
Seat 5: AARothstein ( $1655 )
Seat 7: acesneverlos ( $2250 )
Seat 8: club107 ( $747 )
Seat 10: antonio1975 ( $1420 )
Trny:13039246 Level:7
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to curtainz [ 4c Jc ]
AARothstein folds.
acesneverlos folds.
club107 is all-In [747]
>You have options at Table 14238 Table!.
>You have options at Table 14238 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11246 Table!.
>You have options at Table 14238 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11246 Table!.
antonio1975 folds.
curtainz is all-In [2120]
>You have options at Table 11246 Table!.
BenFosterPro folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Ac, Qs ]
>You have options at Table 14238 Table!.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]
curtainz shows [ 4c, Jc ] high card ace.
club107 shows [ 8h, 8c ] a pair of eights.
curtainz wins 1573 chips from side pot #1 with high card ace.
club107 wins 1894 chips from the main pot with a pair of eights.
thanks

[valenzuela]

ur post is worthless without the insults.

[curtains]

***** Hand History for Game 2197465528 *****
NL Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:13039246 Level:7 Blinds(200/400) - Sunday, June 12, 19:23:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 11709 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: curtainz ( $1573 )
Seat 3: BenFosterPro ( $1208 )
Seat 5: AARothstein ( $1655 )
Seat 7: acesneverlos ( $2250 )
Seat 8: club107 ( $1894 )
Seat 10: antonio1975 ( $1420 )
Trny:13039246 Level:7
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to curtainz [ 2h 8d ]
>You have options at Table 11246 Table!.
acesneverlos folds.
club107 folds.
BenFosterPro: that was dumb. I would have won
antonio1975 has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
well call it
>You have options at Table 11246 Table!.
antonio1975 folds.
i appreciated it
why raise someone who's all in?
curtainz folds.
so you dont call
with nothing?
exactly what she wanted
BenFosterPro folds.
AARothstein does not show cards.
AARothstein wins 600 chips
>You have options at Table 14238 Table!.
well i cant explain that part
***** Hand History for Game 2197470421 *****
NL Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:13039246 Level:7 Blinds(200/400) - Sunday, June 12, 19:24:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 11709 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: curtainz ( $1573 )
Seat 3: BenFosterPro ( $1008 )
Seat 5: AARothstein ( $1855 )
Seat 7: acesneverlos ( $2250 )
Seat 8: club107 ( $1894 )
Seat 10: antonio1975 ( $1420 )
Trny:13039246 Level:7
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to curtainz [ As Kd ]
club107 folds.
>You have options at Table 14238 Table!.
>You have options at Table 11246 Table!.
antonio1975 folds.
>You have options at Table 14238 Table!.
club107: i guess its another retard trying to get lukcy
curtainz is all-In [1573]
>You have options at Table 14238 Table!.
BenFosterPro folds.
AARothstein folds.
acesneverlos folds.
curtainz does not show cards.
curtainz wins 2173 chips



Somehow it doesnt seem to list whom is making the comments.

[Bigwig]

Well, the pot odds are in your favor if BB folds, but they aren't exceptionally good. Also, there isn't a significant other shorty, so I think your fold equity is pretty marginal. Perhaps it's a small leak, but I think I'd pass with J4. I'd probably do it with a slightly better hand.

[curtains]

My fold equity is extremely high....almost no one will call without a great hand against 2 allin players, especially someone who was clearly playing very tight. Also I'm suited, I would not have done it if I was offsuit.

For instance I would expect the BB to fold ATo here. Trust me the chances of the BB overcalling 2 raises was not very high...I'd say under 10%.

[Bigwig]

Lucky retard. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[valenzuela]

Im not sure if they play is good given the chances that BB might call...

[Bigwig]

[ QUOTE ]
Also I'm suited, I would not have done it if I was offsuit.

[/ QUOTE ]

Haha.

Two players all-in here is relatively meaningless to the BB. After all, he's calling the short stack push with any 2, unless he's a donk.

So if I'm in the BB, I'm concerned solely with what YOU have, and I'm putting you on a big range here with 5BB in the SB.

[curtains]

btw one factor is that it does kill my image if I lose the hand, and should hurt my steal equity a bit. I don't think Id have done it if I had like 300 less chips to begin the hand. Also being suited is very important, it usually adds like 3-4% points to my winning chances, which is very signifigant here.

[vinyard]

I don't know if I do this with J4s but I think your reasoning is solid given your read on the BB. You get knoocked down to about 1600 chips which won't result in a significant decrease in folding equity.