TT hand, capped PF

daftdg · #1 06-12-2005, 02:45 AM

Ok, i know we're trying to reduce clutter but this hand seemed fairly interesting.

Some reads:
Mp2- Taggish 18/8 over 200 and change hands, shows down the goods but will get tricky on the cheap streets
Button- Average Straightforward player 22/3/2 in about 100 or so hands

What do you guys think?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises, UTG+1 (poster) calls, 1 fold, MP2 3-bets, 1 fold, Button caps, 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Button calls, Hero folds, UTG+1 folds.

istewart · #2 06-12-2005, 02:53 AM

First, 22/3 is not very "average/straightforward," IMHO.

On the flop you are getting odds, if behind.

PokerBob · #3 06-12-2005, 02:55 AM

I think this fold reallyreallyreally sucks.

blatz · #4 06-12-2005, 03:03 AM

If you're going to fold to a flop like that, you best not call the cap.

The flop is fine for you...Even if your against AA and KK, you have to call...your getting 19.5 to 1 on a 23 to 1 call. Peel it off. You can be against 2 AK's and be ahead at this point. The check ain't bad...but the fold is really horrible. The way you played it, you called the pre-flop cap soley flop a set, and that wasn't even close to value.

Trix · #5 06-12-2005, 03:03 AM

So, how do you play the rest of the hand.

PokerBob · #6 06-12-2005, 03:04 AM

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So, how do you play the rest of the hand.

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Depends what the turn brings, but I'm sure as hell seeing it.

daftdg · #7 06-12-2005, 03:07 AM

I'm not so sure im getting odds here. The ten of clubs is possibly dirty (.5 outs), and my backdoor straight outs may be diminished by a flush (ill give it .25 outs), so as i calculate it, I probably have 1.75 outs. That means ill need approx. 27 sb to make this call. Even if we bump it to 2 full outs here, i need about 24 sb to make this call. Correct me if im wrong here.

Trix · #8 06-12-2005, 03:13 AM

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The way you played it, you called the pre-flop cap soley flop a set, and that wasn't even close to value.

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ehhh, he got almost 8:1 when calling the preflop cap..

Trix · #9 06-12-2005, 03:16 AM

You can answer for all of them if you like [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I asked him to post this hand btw, as it was discussed on IRC. I´ll comment on it later.

istewart · #10 06-12-2005, 03:22 AM

I'd give you a solid 2 outs which is 22.5:1 I think. Especially since you're about to hit the big streets, I would call.