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Old 06-11-2005, 06:32 PM
sahala sahala is offline
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Default Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

This has happened 75% of the time I've min-raised with AA in the last week.

Should I raise more, or just limp? I obviously want someone in the hand with me. I'm philisophically opposed to limping with AA unless it's in later rounds in late position if only to get more value in the hand.


***** Hand History for Game 2191868711 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Level:2 Blinds(15/30)
Table Table 11213 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 3: RJD1946 ( $645 )
Seat 4: Bob7542 ( $1510 )
Seat 5: tbop121971 ( $1095 )
Seat 6: jadrum ( $855 )
Seat 7: Stavros02198 ( $1170 )
Seat 9: endomatic ( $365 )
Seat 2: Hero ( $525 )
Seat 10: pbs1914 ( $625 )
Seat 8: higgy41 ( $1210 )
Trny:13008297 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac As ]
higgy41 folds.
endomatic folds.
pbs1914 folds.
Hero raises [60].
RJD1946 folds.
Bob7542 folds.
tbop121971 folds.
jadrum folds.
Stavros02198 folds.
Hero does not show cards.
Hero wins 105 chips
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:35 PM
Iamafish Iamafish is offline
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Default Re: Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

not at the 11s.

Later when 6 of them call you, youll be posting "how much should i raise?"
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

I doubt it was 75 percent of the time. You just are remembering it more often than not because you love AA and expect to win a huge pot from it.

I don't miniraise with AA in the early stages of the tournament. That is just dangerous play. Be glad you took down the pot and didn't lose to some guy that calls with 98s and flops something that puts your AA to shame.

Bet at least 3BB if not more.

Also, the miniraise isn't a tell on anything in my opinion at that level. Plenty of people put in 2BB bets with Ax, small PP, and any two cards T and up.

They folded cause they didn't have jack. Be happy with the pot that you got and stop miniraising AA in the early stages.
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

Just raise standard. No need to be fancy here.
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:40 PM
Iamafish Iamafish is offline
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Default Re: Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

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I'm philisophically opposed to limping with AA unless it's in later rounds in late position if only to get more value in the hand.


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Come to the 55s
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:58 PM
sahala sahala is offline
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Default Re: Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

Good point. I ran through poker tracker and looked at AA hands for the last 8 days. It's pretty close to 75%, but I think you're right...there's nothing to believe that they folded because of a min-raise "read". More often than not they had junk cards and played them correctly.

Back to 3-4x raises...
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

I think that limping with aces in the later rounds in late position is pure suicide. I NEVER make this play. Let the blinds in cheap and you get what you deserve. At the later levels, everyone's expecting push / fold anyway so at the very least make a mini-raise then. The blinds are ginormous at the later rounds. Take them down and survive, if they call your raise all the better. Never limp with aces in late position at high blind levels. Never.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:08 PM
treeofwisdom7 treeofwisdom7 is offline
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Default Re: Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

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Good point. I ran through poker tracker and looked at AA hands for the last 8 days. It's pretty close to 75%, but I think you're right...there's nothing to believe that they folded because of a min-raise "read". More often than not they had junk cards and played them correctly.

Back to 3-4x raises...

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why are you mini rasing in the early LVLs stop doing that just raise everything regular.

try something new in your game. play standard. raise 3X everything then check fold if you dont have it. sounds like your trying too many tricky plays which might make you easy to read.


when i raise b4 the flop with JJ and i catch a set with no flush no st8 draw you know what i do 90% of the time..


I BET! and they usually pay me off
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: Min-raising AA -- is this too obvious?

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Never limp with aces in late position at high blind levels. Never.

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There are times to limp, times to mini raise and times to go all in. Never say never.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:12 PM
treeofwisdom7 treeofwisdom7 is offline
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Never limp with aces in late position at high blind levels. Never.

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There are times to limp, times to mini raise and times to go all in. Never say never.

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you shouldnt say never say never
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