AK turns in to two pair, do you 3 bet this turn or toss this?

pdxjayhawk · #1 06-10-2005, 11:19 PM

Villian just sat down. No notes on him.

Anything wrong with the line?

Ultimate Bet 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 5 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

WLVRYN · #2 06-10-2005, 11:26 PM

I would reraise the turn. No way I toss it. If you get capped, I'd still call. You have a fair number of outs still on the river.

2+2 wannabe · #3 06-10-2005, 11:29 PM

yeah you can't fold this

i'd re-raise the turn and call a non-club river bet (obviously raise a club river)

you have a million outs if you're behind (any club, any ace, any king)

shadow29 · #4 06-10-2005, 11:42 PM

wtf

there is basically no way im folding this

KingOtter · #5 06-10-2005, 11:48 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Villian just sat down. No notes on him.

Anything wrong with the line?

Ultimate Bet 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, 5 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

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Describe your hand, in words, on the turn. What draws do you have? How many outs do you have to hit those draws?

And then tell us the answer to your subject line question.

KO

pdxjayhawk · #6 06-10-2005, 11:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]

Describe your hand, in words, on the turn. What draws do you have? How many outs do you have to hit those draws?

And then tell us the answer to your subject line question.

KO

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Title is bad. I meant on the river.

There's no way I'm not seeing the river. I have A outs, K outs, and nut flush outs. I count 12, right?

I held my nose and called at the end, knowing that there was a good chance the 2 pair was probably beat by a) a flush, or b) a set of either 5's or 8's.

steelcmg · #7 06-11-2005, 01:05 AM

Im pretty sure he has the flush but u still have the A to make a higher flush i would still 3 bet the turn and if reraised call down unless u hit ur flush

Jakesta · #8 06-11-2005, 01:44 AM

3betting here is insane.

Villain just check-raised you on a 3 flush board. Call him here and call the river if you don't hit another club or another A or K. Obviously if you hit one of those outs you should raise.

Shillx · #9 06-11-2005, 01:52 AM

3betting here is insane.

Why?

3-betting might not be a bad idea here. The villian can't have the nut flush since we hold the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Depending on the villian and how he plays, he might not cap the turn if we are beat. If he doesn't cap the turn with a flush, 3-betting is probably the best play in this spot.

Brad

Dead · #10 06-11-2005, 01:58 AM

I don't know what Villain wouldn't cap the turn here with a flush.