bisonbison vs Ed Miller

[DavidC]

Two points:

#1:

A while ago bisonbison wrote a post:

Title: "Can you limp under the gun with 22 at 0.5/1?"
Body: "Yes you can."

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Checking SSHE it says not to do that unless you have 6-8 limpers in every pot.

What gives?

#2:

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--Dave.

[xLukex]

I thought somewhere in SSHE it said it becomes correct to call with pocket pairs in all positions regardless.

I dunno.

Dibs on BisonBison. His name is cooler.

[cold_cash]

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Anyone interested in sponsoring a Celebrity Deathmatch?

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I'll take Ed and give 3:1.

Everyone knows Bison is one of those language arts fairies.

[handsome]

Odds of flopping a set: 7.5:1

What bisonbison meant is that the $0.5/1 game is so donkish that you have better than 7.5:1 implied+pot odds.

[bottomset]

its what happens when you take the training wheels off, coupled with good table selection

I'm personally pretty fond of 22-44

[SoftcoreRevolt]

Like it's hard to find 6 people to the flop at .5/1 on Party.

[DavidC]

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Like it's hard to find 6 people to the flop at .5/1 on Party.

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Tough for me to find a table where there's an average of 6-8 people to the flop at 2:30pm Eastern time.

--Dave.

[DavidC]

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Odds of flopping a set: 7.5:1

What bisonbison meant is that the $0.5/1 game is so donkish that you have better than 7.5:1 implied+pot odds.

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A couple of things about this:

1) it has to be your 1 investment to other people's 7.5, not your 1, then your 3 to their 3.5.

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2) You have to make up that in EQUITY, not in pot size. If they flop a flush draw vs your set, then 7.5:1 isn't good enough any more, you need to get like 15-20:1 because they're going to be collecting equity with you as you build the pot.

and finally:

3) I figured that the skill of opponents at the 0.5/1 level was what bison was talking about, BUT I also thought that the skill of small stakes players was the whole focus of SSHE... is Ed assuming smarter players than Bison? If not, does Ed underestimate the post-flop odds or overestimate risk of raising or something?

That (#3) is the point of the post, really. (#1 and #2 are just stuff that I like to bitch about periodically.)

--Dave.

[Entity]

Bison is right.

So is Ed.

[Redd]

Apologies in advance for the hijack, but I saw the final trot that pushed me over the edge.
What is that weird green thing anyways, dude? I miss the smoking monkey.