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Old 06-09-2005, 02:57 PM
dreq dreq is offline
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Default 2/4 party hand

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB


i know this is a faily boring hand, anything wrong with preflop?
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party hand

No.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party hand

NH - I'm not seeing any better way to play it.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party hand

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anything wrong with preflop?

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no
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:03 PM
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anything wrong with preflop?

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Hell no. Easy 3-bet.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party hand

Your preflop play is fine. Recognize though that you stand a very good chance of being either tied or beaten by the turn given the preflop action. If the utg player has reasonable raising standards, his utg raise followed by a cap indicate a very strong hand. Hands I'd play this way in this situation would be AK, AA-TT. Of those, you beat only QQ and TT when the turn comes. Once he c/r the turn, you are almost certainly winning 1/2 the pot at best. FWIW, I play this the same way you did.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party hand

yeah i know just dont like to let those big ones slip away.....
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:10 PM
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You played it right.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party hand

I know this wouldn't be "standard" (and would require a good read, too), but if the player is fairly tight, how would anyone feel about checking behind the turn? Say he's the type to only cap AA-JJ, AK (not at all uncommon), so we beat QQ only, which is totally folding to our turn bet, jacking us with any of the pp's, and it doesn't especially matter with AK cuz we're splitting anyway. Check behind, call a river bet? Again, with a good read...

Oops, ok, so with the gutshot, QQ is not folding to our turn bet. Hmmm...crap. Well absent the gutshot I think it's an idea worth considering.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 party hand

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Hands I'd play this way in this situation would be AK, AA-TT.

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I think this is a fairly standard range to cap preflop, since it's rare for a player to cap with worse would a WA/WB line be more profitable here?

AA and KK - Lose.
QQ, JJ and TT - Most players will fold the turn unimproved.
AK - Tie.

What do you think?
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