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Old 06-08-2005, 04:57 PM
CallMeIshmael CallMeIshmael is offline
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Default 2 things...

(Im putting 1 here, because I dont want to have to type it again)



1. Something that bothers me is when people say something like "He wouldnt fold anyway."

Lets say, for example, someone will make a "wait for the turn" type play. Because, on the flop, they arent able to protect their hand with a raise.

People often combat this with:

"People at this limit wont fold anyway. So, you cant protect your hand"

This is not right.


The idea of protecting your hand is completely unrelated to whether or not villian will call.

Protecting our hand means WE ARE PUTTING VILLIAN IN A SPOT WHERE HE CANT CALL PROFITABLY.

When we do this WE WANT him to call, because we make more when he calls than when he folds.


Protection is NOT winning the pot, it is putting villians into lose-lose situtions, where they either have to fold a hand with outs, or call with improper odds.





2. Now that this is out of the way, I am using this thread (and encourage others to do so as well) to make wild Salem Witchtrial-esque accusations as to the identity of S. Perry.

Who is very possibly a gimmick account, given:

- His obvious ability
- Knowledge of the boards


With very minimal evidence, it appears he is in the NYC crowd, and I will claim he is either:

sfer of sthief09
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:01 PM
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sfer or sthief09

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I stated yesterday or the day before that these are who I believe it is.
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:07 PM
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The idea of protecting your hand is completely unrelated to whether or not villian will call.


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This and the misuses of Poker Stove and its results, I feel, are the two most frustrating errors in this forum.
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:08 PM
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What exactly is gained or lost by creating a second identity?

I could see it if you were a tool and didn't want that image, but the people you mentioned don't fit that bill imo.

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Old 06-08-2005, 05:10 PM
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but then we wouldnt get posts from 'gaydar' or 'cliffsnotes'
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:10 PM
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This and the misuses of Poker Stove and its results, I feel, are the two most frustrating errors in this forum.

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I hadn't noticed that one.

How do you mean?

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Old 06-08-2005, 05:12 PM
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most notably using small equity edges preflop and on the flop to justify bets/raises, or the lack of an equity edge to forego a raise, when in fact the hand may play out differently if you choose differently than what fair share would suggest.

I'm sure there are others
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:12 PM
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What exactly is gained or lost by creating a second identity?

I could see it if you were a tool and didn't want that image, but the people you mentioned don't fit that bill imo.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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Humour value, among others.
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:13 PM
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The idea of protecting your hand is completely unrelated to whether or not villian will call.


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This and the misuses of Poker Stove and its results, I feel, are the two most frustrating errors in this forum.

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Stats posts?
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Old 06-08-2005, 05:15 PM
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The idea of protecting your hand is completely unrelated to whether or not villian will call.


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This and the misuses of Poker Stove and its results, I feel, are the two most frustrating errors in this forum.

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Stats posts?

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Those aren't errors nor misconceptions, they are just annoying.
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