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Old 06-06-2005, 09:27 PM
elena_elphie elena_elphie is offline
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Default Tulalip $200NL, 2nd nut flush draw + pair on flush board

This hand is from a $200 max buyin NL game (blinds 3/5) at Tulalip. I am in the BB w/ Kd6c with about $450, SB has about $370 and Button has around $550 or so.

Button minraises, and likes to do this w/ a wide range of hands to attack the blinds. SB calls, and I call as well getting 5:1. In retrospect I should fold here, I like to call w/ any 2 when Button minraises because he could have anything and can be pushed off a flop, but in retrospect I think presence of SB makes me want to fold here but that is not the question.

The pot is $15, flop comes T63 all diamonds, giving me the 2nd nut flush draw plus a pair. SB checks, I bet $15, button folds, SB raises to $50. SB is decent, maybe a bit tight and conservative. What is your plan for the hand?
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Old 06-06-2005, 10:36 PM
wdeadwyler wdeadwyler is offline
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Default Re: Tulalip $200NL, 2nd nut flush draw + pair on flush board

I would much here, fearing SB has a pair+nut flush draw, flush already made, set, etc. He prob isnt going anywere and you may be WAAAAAY behind. Muck it.
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Old 06-07-2005, 04:22 PM
elena_elphie elena_elphie is offline
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Default Re: Tulalip $200NL, 2nd nut flush draw + pair on flush board

I would do the same in retrospect, rather than putting in a stupid reraise like I actually did.
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Old 06-07-2005, 04:29 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Tulalip $200NL, 2nd nut flush draw + pair on flush board

I'm folding. If I hit and I'm ahead, I'm not getting paid, I'm not really getting odds to draw in any case, and if I hit and am behind the nuts I'm gonna pay. A lot.
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Old 06-07-2005, 04:36 PM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: Tulalip $200NL, 2nd nut flush draw + pair on flush board

He's check-3x raising on a flush board. If he has the flush, you've got 7 outs, maybe even 0 outs. If he's overplaying a set, you're a big dog. If he has top pair with no diamonds, you're even money. If he has top pair with the Ad, you're a big dog. Fold as soon as it's raised.

I hate drawing to a non-nut four flush because there's no way of knowing if you're ahead or behind. I might count it as extra outs if I had a good hand besides the draw.

BTW the bet on the flop seems fine, depending on the table.
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