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Old 06-03-2005, 11:53 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

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Hero ($2040)
BB ($2833.35)
UTG ($3482)
MP1 ($1115.50)
MP2 ($1954.50)
CO ($3137.25)
Button ($1835)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, BB calls $40.

Flop: ($120) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $320</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1980 (all-in)</font>

No reads. Does this look okay?
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:05 AM
THATWACOKID THATWACOKID is offline
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

BB can call with any two and be correct to do so because he has HUGE implied odds. No worse hands will call you.
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

I think this is really bad.
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

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BB can call with any two and be correct to do so because he has HUGE implied odds.

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this is not true because OP doesn't have KK or AA most of the time
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:15 AM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

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I think this is really bad.

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which part?
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

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BB can call with any two and be correct to do so because he has HUGE implied odds. No worse hands will call you.

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What is the best line? Fold? Call and let him check down unless he improves? I just don't know what line to take.
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:18 AM
THATWACOKID THATWACOKID is offline
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

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this is not true because OP doesn't have KK or AA most of the time

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Yea, I guess that's a good point LOL. IF bb somehow knows you have KK then he could call with any two, but I guess that's not really poker.
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

maybe this is just me, but I think it is obvious you have some kind of pockets over 9s, so he really cant lose more money on this unless he has a hand like QQ. Is it too fishy too just call? Check the turn, if he checks behind, push river like a missed club draw? If he bets the turn, depending on the player(his likelihood to call in each circumstance) you can just call and lead river, or push turn?
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

The problem with your push is you probably have the best hand, but you won't get "paid off" (in other words called) unless you actually don't have the best hand. I'm a fan of letting him bet into you with the worst hand, or if you are beat, get off cheap. I'd check call the turn, and the river, and if it goes check check on the turn, then bet the river, unless a club comes, and then u're in a sticky spot there. I'd put in a value/block bet, and if he comes over the top, it's an easy fold.
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl KK sb vs bb war

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The problem with your push is you probably have the best hand, but you won't get "paid off" (in other words called) unless you actually don't have the best hand. I'm a fan of letting him bet into you with the worst hand, or if you are beat, get off cheap. I'd check call the turn, and the river, and if it goes check check on the turn, then bet the river, unless a club comes, and then u're in a sticky spot there. I'd put in a value/block bet, and if he comes over the top, it's an easy fold.

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What do you do on the turn when a club comes, and he makes a good sized bet? You auto fold?
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