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#1
06-03-2005, 04:14 PM
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5-handed calling standards at the 55s
I really don't have a feel yet for the 55s. Given the calling standards I've seen in the 33s, I would often push this, but being new to the 55s, I folded -- am I too tight? (Or maybe I too loose before [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])
***** Hand History for Game 2146079611 ***** NL Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:12761267 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, June 02, 23:38:16 EDT 2005 Table Table 18970 (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 1: Dngr20KVolts ( $2855 ) Seat 3: dfscott1 ( $3160 ) Seat 4: Skooma ( $1090 ) Seat 5: onfire77 ( $1780 ) Seat 6: davidwhite1 ( $1115 ) Trny:12761267 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to dfscott1 [ Qc 8d ] davidwhite1 folds. Dngr20KVolts folds. Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not asking about Skooma's and onfire77's calling standards -- just the typical 55 player (and not curtains!) 
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#2
06-03-2005, 04:26 PM
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Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s
I'd say your stack is VERY healthy, and the blinds are small compared to your stack. That's why this is a pass. Someone enlighten me... i'm just recently getting outa my $1300 downswing. I've discovered, that people DO seem to care about your image. How have u amassed your stack? I think on fire's calling range should be small (AQ+, TT+) However, because skooma has 990 after posting, he might be willing to gamble it up (A2+, KT+, 22+). These two ranges might be a bit tight for the players in those position. With that range, pushing Q8o is marginally +$EV (.4%). I think i pass here-- especially if you've been stealing lately. your stack is in great shape, no need to jeopordize it, right guys?
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#3
06-03-2005, 04:27 PM
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Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s
I'm making the jump from 33 to 55 as well right now, only about 20 in, but I definately feel a big difference from the 33's. Maybe i'm just on a downswing but I feel that my pushes are being called a lot more.
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#4
06-03-2005, 04:32 PM
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Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s
I might try raising 3x bb here and calling a push by SB folding to push by BB.
From my perspective stealing from the BB here is huge, because if his stack shrinks a little bit, there is only really one stack you need to fear at all. 300 profit for 600 risk, I think that you will get FF at least twice for every time you get a push.
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#6
06-03-2005, 04:55 PM
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Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s
But then the problem of "poth hoddds" arrised. Your raise to 600, SB fold BB pushes for 1800. There is 1800+600+100 in the pot=2500, you have to call 1200. Folding when gettin 2:1 could be disastrous-- there ARE players who are willing to get frisky w/ marginal hands in this position (AT+, 55+, KQ etc...) and folding vs hose hands w/ Q8 gettin 2:1 IS BHHHAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD.
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#7
06-03-2005, 04:58 PM
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Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s
Define bad? For me, bad is not landing in the money... after betting 600 i still have a very healthy stack and I can steal back my losses later. that 600 bet was a "stab" at the blinds, and I dont care about my pot odds after, I'm more worried about keeping my healthy stack.
Maybe this is a leak in my game? After I raise 600 and fold to an all in, the rest of my steals will be all in unless I land a monster.
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#8
06-03-2005, 05:15 PM
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Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s
[ QUOTE ]
Define bad? For me, bad is not landing in the money... after betting 600 i still have a very healthy stack and I can steal back my losses later. that 600 bet was a "stab" at the blinds, and I dont care about my pot odds after, I'm more worried about keeping my healthy stack. Maybe this is a leak in my game? After I raise 600 and fold to an all in, the rest of my steals will be all in unless I land a monster. [/ QUOTE ] I love to play against people like this. They raise, I push any two from the BB, they fold. It's like a reverse blind steal. The other fun ones are the SBs that complete when folded to them...
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#9
06-03-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s
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I love to play against people like this. They raise, I push any two from the BB, they fold. It's like a reverse blind steal. The other fun ones are the SBs that complete when folded to them... [/ QUOTE ] Maybe its an ugly leak in my game, or maybe it works against all but 2+2'ers. Like I said, you might steal back from me once, but not again, and chances are I've already stolen more or close to the amount of chipse you just "stole back". Its not like I min raised (begging for all in [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) Am I on crack people?
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#10
06-03-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Define bad? For me, bad is not landing in the money... after betting 600 i still have a very healthy stack and I can steal back my losses later. that 600 bet was a "stab" at the blinds, and I dont care about my pot odds after, I'm more worried about keeping my healthy stack. Maybe this is a leak in my game? After I raise 600 and fold to an all in, the rest of my steals will be all in unless I land a monster. [/ QUOTE ] I love to play against people like this. They raise, I push any two from the BB, they fold. It's like a reverse blind steal. The other fun ones are the SBs that complete when folded to them... [/ QUOTE ] when I see people completing their sb at 200 400 I just want to stab someone. there are people who do it ALL THE TIME.
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