Very Strange Hand Party 2k

Jason Strasser · #1 06-01-2005, 02:44 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (10 handed) converter

UTG ($2711)
UTG+1 ($1907)
UTG+2 ($3011.59)
MP1 ($2242)
MP2 ($937.24)
MP3 ($1876)
CO ($0)
Button ($1858)
Hero ($2717)
BB ($1930)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $10.
3 folds, MP1 raises to $70, 1 fold, MP3 calls $70, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $60, 1 fold.

Flop: ($230) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $90, MP3 raises to $180, Hero calls $180, MP1 raises to $450, MP3 calls $270, Hero calls $270.

Turn: ($1580) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero Checks, MP1 bets all in for $1722, MP3 folds, Hero Calls.

Flop and turn both interesting and very debatable. I strongly thought about pushing the flop and folding the turn. My opponent went all in instantly on the turn btw.

-Jason

chuddo · #2 06-01-2005, 02:48 PM

jj?

and what range did you put him on when you called.

NiceCatch · #3 06-01-2005, 02:50 PM

Why the call on the turn? You don't have odds to chase your flush. Seems like he clearly has a set. What's your read on MP1?

Calls on the flop are fine.

queball · #4 06-01-2005, 02:53 PM

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Why the call on the turn? You don't have odds to chase your flush. Seems like he clearly has a set. What's your read on MP1?

why is he not getting the odds to call here??

thabadguy · #5 06-01-2005, 02:54 PM

I think the call to 180 was fine, but once it was raised to 450, I like a nice double fisted all-in. Turn is a fold.

queball · #6 06-01-2005, 02:57 PM

did the MP1 like to push his draws? was he a bluffer? would he check raise his trip jacks with a flush draw on the board? A lot is dependent on previous plays...maybe he was pushing his flush draw or top pair with the boss kicker?...im leaning towrds AK or AQ and not the set of J's and also the busted flush draw..any thoughts?

NiceCatch · #7 06-01-2005, 02:59 PM

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Why the call on the turn? You don't have odds to chase your flush. Seems like he clearly has a set. What's your read on MP1?

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why is he not getting the odds to call here??

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?? Poker 101... he has 9 outs to the nut flush, with one card to come, so roughly 4:1 odds. Pot-sized bet means 2:1 to call. And actually both those odds are skewed in the wrong direction (worse than 4:1 to hit, worse than 2:1 to call).

Jason Strasser · #8 06-01-2005, 03:04 PM

In your judgement, how often is my pair of aces the best hand here?

-Jason

Jason Strasser · #9 06-01-2005, 03:06 PM

I thought a set was most likely, but that some sort of pair/draw combo was possible, as was a missed draw or a desperate KK or QQ.

-Jason

Jason Strasser · #10 06-01-2005, 03:07 PM

No read.

AK and AQ seem really impossible to me. I mean, what's he doing? He cant have a draw, and very few players at this stakes will play that flop like that with AK or AQ. AJ, however, is very possible.

-Jason