River value betting discussion

Wepeel · #1 06-01-2005, 10:58 AM

I think one of the hardest parts of playing stellar poker is knowing when to value bet the river. I see far too many 2+2'ers posting stats where their aggression just falters on the river, not that this is necessarily bad as value betting is all situational. So, I thought I'd post a hand to generate some good discussion on knowing good positions to value bet or not and the logic behind the decision. Feel free to post other hands to create a good discussion on value betting.

OK, since reads are a vital part of knowing when to value bet. SB is 60/5/1.33 after 20 hands and BB is 41/6.52/1.5 after 45 hands.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero...

chief444 · #2 06-01-2005, 11:02 AM

Easy bet. Straight came runner runner. They both checked to you. They're both very loose and will call with a lot of worse hands.

toss · #3 06-01-2005, 11:02 AM

Both villains looks loose-passive; I'm betting. Now if only I can carry out that practice when I'm playing...

Rico Suave · #4 06-01-2005, 11:05 AM

In addition to what has already been said, I will add that the most players are not attempting to c/r their 1 card straight on the river, as they will be afraid it will get checked through. Most would just lead.

--Rico

Erik W · #5 06-01-2005, 11:07 AM

bet and fold to a raise