Wild wild B&M

radek2166 · #1 05-31-2005, 01:08 PM

Just spent 13 weeks in Vegas man the games were good.

Well I get back to Phoenix. Last night I figure I am going to head down to Vee Quiva.

Honest to god it was 7 to the flop 70% of the time 4/8 game.

Loose aggro game UTG an older man with sunglasses and a hat Raises with 78o. 7 callers to the flop.

I am just haveing a horrid night can get anything going. Flush draws missing tptk no good beta by either a rivered 2pair runner runner flush or the rivered gut shot.

Finnaly I get K's UTG+1 limps a loose passive type. I raise caller caller I mutter Jesus loves you call that raise!!!! MP3 rerasies fold Button calls 3cold. SB calls BB calls UTG calls I reraise Every calls for 28 SB. sound right?

Flop comes Q32 rainbow. UTG bets, I raise Fold Fold Call Call fold fold call. for 18 BB

Turn comes King completes the rainbow. UTG Checks I bet 2 callers. 3 to the river for 21BB.

River 3. I bet button raises me UTG folds I reraise buttong calls and flipsover 10 3o MHIG.

The question I have is how do you play in games like this where the call 1 2 3 4 bets with any 2 cards. It was just incredible. I was not playing my A game in hindsight I do know that. I do know I was still playing tight and argro just not playing my best.

I do terrible in games like this due to the fact I never know what I am up aggainst. I saw underparis call to the river. and raise on the river. I saw Q5o raise preflop. I just saw some incredible things.

itsmarty · #2 05-31-2005, 01:38 PM

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In Antwort auf:</font><hr />
I saw underparis call to the river. and raise on the river. I saw Q5o raise preflop. I just saw some incredible things.

[/ QUOTE ]

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Sorry, got a little distracted [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Stick to big pairs and suited connecters, don't get sucked into playing trash just because you see it winning, and don't bluff.

Martin

RydenStoompala · #3 05-31-2005, 03:14 PM

Bladerunner references are always good.

What to say when you suck out against a rock?

Wake up! Time to die.

Bremen · #4 05-31-2005, 03:02 PM

How do you play in that game? Drink lots of caffeine and don't leave until they pry your cold dead fingers off the rail.

radek2166 · #5 05-31-2005, 03:06 PM

I get that part of it. I just ended up tilting a bit. That really threw me off. I have played solid in B&M , yesterday just drove me insane.

GreywolfNYC · #6 05-31-2005, 03:25 PM

You just described the 10-20 games in Atlantic City. The really atrocious play is still rampant at the low end of the middle limits too.

InkyWretch · #7 05-31-2005, 05:24 PM

[ QUOTE ]
You just described the 10-20 games in Atlantic City. The really atrocious play is still rampant at the low end of the middle limits too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Isn't that the case in every casino right now?

Luv2DriveTT · #8 06-01-2005, 01:40 PM

[ QUOTE ]
You just described the 10-20 games in Atlantic City. The really atrocious play is still rampant at the low end of the middle limits too.

[/ QUOTE ]

I've played where Radick is describing, the worst players I have ever seen. Honestly AC doesn't even come close, they are experts in comparison. An amazing player will have huge variance in this game, there is no way around it. HOWEVER it is hugely profitable over time with patience. Simple strategy is no bluffing (even cut down on some semi-bluffs), don't bet unimproved overcards into a full field, bet relentlessly on the river for value, and have immense patience.

My all time favorite suckout was in this room, guy to my right cold called a cap on the button when I raised under the gun with AA (capper had something like 55). River came something like 34T96, the idiot was holding 57o. As he was gloating with a huge 30BB pot, he turned to me and said "I knew everyone else was playing overcards, so I figured I had the best chance if the flop was low cards".

I should have asked him for his phone number, so I can fly out to Arizona every time he plays [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

radek2166 · #9 06-01-2005, 01:48 PM

Man This game was just incredible. It felt more like craps than poker.

Now I know the semibluff wont get me free cards. I do know it will build a pot.

Favorite quote from the game was this.

Old hag to my right. everytime she would have floped something she lets the whole table know. Flop comes 277. She makes her face and says I would have won if I would have played. I said its oldem any two cards can win. She says I cant play 27. 5 second pause. I can if they are sooted.

smoore · #10 06-01-2005, 02:00 PM

I love games like you describe. Lots of variance but about the only low limit where you can beat the rake reliably. Fasten your seatbelt and grab a handful of chips.

Lots of waiting until the turn to raise, call with some hands you would semibluff reasonable opposition with. You almost always have odds to limp with any pair as long as it's not too LAGgy. Big pairs tend to turn into just that... one pair. Play those multiway hands and you will get paid when they hit. I've seen four people call a royal flush holder who was raising to the river. Amazing... he won a 40BB or so pot and a nifty baseball hat.

Whee!