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Old 05-30-2005, 08:09 PM
iNsChris iNsChris is offline
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Default Need to learn to mix play up?

ok so at my site ive got a reputation.

Pretty much TAG/Rock etc.

ANyhow, If i raise most guys know i have a good hand and although alot don't respect the raise they will prob fold flop if they miss and try kill me off if they hit 2pair for example.

I'm a newie(Relatively) and following SSH chart (Well maybe peek now and again, pretty much know my preflop hands but must Re-Read SSH preflop).

ANyhow, Do you guys find your "predictable"? Do you care? The chat normally goes "Ohh hes got a big hand" "He raised, Run!" "KK AA?" general banter.

Any tips/advice? keep to my game? Try adjust or do some bluffs?

Trouble is blind stealing works occasionaly, But I have some calling stations whom foil my attempts.

Just wanting opinions really, Can't change my username which is unfortunate [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:30 PM
illunious illunious is offline
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

What site and limit?
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:11 PM
iNsChris iNsChris is offline
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

0.05/.10 £ .10/.20

Site - Unknown by most, UkPoker.
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Old 05-31-2005, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

Do you know roughly what your VPIP/PFR are?

My first thought is for you to raise more hands and do more stealing. I would follow that with playing a few more hands if you're still getting too much respect.

Call a few more bets on the end when you think you're beaten. If you only show down winning hands you're getting bluffed more than you think and the advertising would apparently do you some good. Obviously don't get carried away, but I know from first hand experience how nice it can be to win an 8 BB pot when you thought you were advertising. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:00 AM
iNsChris iNsChris is offline
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

Stealing fails mostly, I do attempt when pretty sure they are all respecting my raises/(Fear me) but calling stations foil these attempts alot or take a few more aggressive bets post flop.

No idea on VPIP/Aggression. I know i only played 25 - 28% of hands though and i'm sure they know i fold alot (had comments lol).

Getting fustrating and uncomfortable them knowing how i play.

Thanks.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

VPIP sounds reasonable at 25-28%. You probably need to play a bit more aggressively when you are in a pot.

Why are you sticking with just the one site for long enough that people know your game? The sign-up and re-load bonuses are so generous that you should be moving your action week-to-week anyway.
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Old 05-31-2005, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

Do you raise w small PP on the CO or button against 1 or 2 limpers? One of the reasons for doing it is that even if you don't flop your set if everyone else misses and checks to you your flop bet looks like a PP A or K and they'll run and hide and give you the pot.

I like to open raise with 78s in middle or late position if I think people are taking my bets too seriously. Then bet or raise any flop. If they didn't hit anything they'll think you've got a big PP, or if an A, K or Q has flopped they'll think you've got it and they'll fold if they don't have one of their own. Sometimes you might even make a straight or flush and get a chance to win a big pot with it and that'll mess with their heads good. Then you can go back to your ordinary ways.
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Old 05-31-2005, 11:23 AM
SheridanCat SheridanCat is offline
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

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Pretty much TAG/Rock

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A tight-aggressive style is not the same as being a rock. Rocks tend to be tight-passive. Just to be clear.

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ANyhow, If i raise most guys know i have a good hand and although alot don't respect the raise they will prob fold flop if they miss and try kill me off if they hit 2pair for example.


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If this is a continued problem, you need to start playing flops aggressively and try to steal some. Once you're caught, switch back to a tighter game. It's important to switch gears sometimes.

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ANyhow, Do you guys find your "predictable"? Do you care? The chat normally goes "Ohh hes got a big hand" "He raised, Run!" "KK AA?" general banter.


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Since I play primarily at PartyPoker and PokerStars, I don't really run into the same players all that often anymore. Unless someone has PT, they really aren't going to get much of a read on me - and even then they won't have much opportunity.

My suggestion is to try another site - a larger site.

Regards,

T
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

first, get pokertracker, it'll give you much more solid information on your playing style that you can get through the stats that the sites give you, and keep in mind that your beliefs about your style are probably way off. before i got PT i thought i was a TAG, turns out i was playing weak-tight (and not as tight as i'd thought).

also, unless you're playing against the same nine people all the time, mixing up your play at low limits (up to 1/20 is a losing proposition. it is definitly important to mix up your play if your opponents are paying attention, AND making adjustments to compensate. at .05/.10, i garuntee that this isn't happening. forget about it for now.

if they think you've got a big huge hand every time you raise, you're probably playing too weak-tight, that is; be more aggressive. remember that it's solid play that gets the money. maybe try another site if your bankroll allows it.

GL
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:11 AM
iNsChris iNsChris is offline
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Default Re: Need to learn to mix play up?

K thanks,

Ill swap over to PokerStars in few weeks and purchase pokertracker ASAP.

I think that will improve my game majorly, Be able to post good hand historys also.

Looking forward to the change, Will work on getting $150 br by mid june now then.

Thanks.
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