Adjusting to 1/2 (a hand)

[Duerig]

My biggest question on this hand is my play on the turn, but feel free to comment on any part of the hand. At .50/1.00 this turn would have been an auto raise, because people love to call down. At 1/2 though I think the average player is a bit more tight. Do you raise the turn or call?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $1.5.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) checks, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, MP2 folds.

River: (9.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

[DMBFan23]

I think you should raise the turn because there are many players in, but heads up I would have really dug waiting for the river.

one reason to raise the turn with more players in is because you're more likely to see someone with the A or K of trump and they will gladly call the two cold.

[ClaytonN]

I'll be the first to say fold preflop

Flop call is marginally +EV

Raise the turn, it's multiway!

[milesdyson]

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Flop call is marginally +EV

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Wtf?

[ClaytonN]

WTF to your wtf

Do the math

[milesdyson]

Think about this more, please. If you think calling here is only marginally +EV, I don't know what to say. That's really bad.

You're making a huge mistake if you're thinking, "we have 9 outs, so we need... "

[Maurader1]

I agree we should raise the turn, but unclear on why.
Do we want the A/K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] to call two cold, or are we trying to fold A/K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and thereby protect our hand against a fourth spade on the river?

[DMBFan23]

I wouldnt mind the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] calling two cold, aside from the fact that OESDs and two pair hands, and hell even one pair hands, will call the two cold. the only hand I truly want to fold is a set, but hey I also want a bj from natalie portman [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

EDIT: I will also jump on the fold preflop bandwagon

[ClaytonN]

Ohhhh shite.

I had MP2 as folding. He called.

This changes things. This hand is stronger than I originally thought.

Now it's more like "fairly strong +EV, but not very strong +EV".

I READ GOOD

By the way: FOLD PREFLOP!

[ArturiusX]

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WTF to your wtf

Do the math

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I think you skipped the implied odds section of SSHE, champ.