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Old 05-29-2005, 02:17 PM
pauliewalnuts pauliewalnuts is offline
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Default Anyone fold this?

This was my first hand at the table and I'd never played with this villian before. Anyone dump this to the river CR?


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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB
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Old 05-29-2005, 02:21 PM
brazilio brazilio is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

Big pot enamors me with calling, but I think it's a losing proposition.
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Old 05-29-2005, 02:24 PM
dealer_toe dealer_toe is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

w/ out a read you can't fold. The spot sucks, but I think you have to make the call.
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Old 05-29-2005, 02:26 PM
Mr_RC Mr_RC is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

I may be a bit passive on the river, but I prefer a check on the river here. There is a three straight and an over card on the board. No one can call you with anything that can't beat you.
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Old 05-29-2005, 02:28 PM
peterchi peterchi is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

I know this isn't the OP's question, but is this river bet standard against an unknown? I tend to check this without a read...

And yes, I'm unhappily calling the c/r. which is why I'm reluctant to bet.
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Old 05-29-2005, 02:33 PM
dealer_toe dealer_toe is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

sure you can...you can get called by any 5 6 or 7 that the SB thought, The PFR must have big cards, so my pair is good. I see a lot of value in betting the river.
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Old 05-29-2005, 02:38 PM
brazilio brazilio is offline
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

The bet's standard if I can fold to a checkraise, which apparently nobody can. I'm not calling the checkraise, even if the pot's huge. I see a good value bet on the river, I see no value in calling the c/r.
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Old 05-29-2005, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

I'm betting any river except maybe a four or eight. If I was only against one opponent, I'd bet any card. I value bet the river relentlessly. I believe it to be one of my strong points. To be honest, I wasnt particularly worried about an ace or king falling. I figured I was up against a low pair or some straight draw.
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Old 05-29-2005, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

I would bet the river, calling the reraise would be a judgment call.
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Old 05-29-2005, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Anyone fold this?

I think a river c/r into two opponents on a card that is hardly a scarecard, is very rarely a bluff. I would fold this and not lose any sleep over it.
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