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Old 05-29-2005, 01:50 AM
moomoocow moomoocow is offline
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Hi there,

I'm curious to know what sort of comps you get for playing poker at Casinos. I know it's not as heavily comped as slots or other table games. What are the best casinos in Atlantic City in terms of comps?

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Old 05-29-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: Comps for Playing Poker

It can range from nothing to very little. Depends on the casino. With some new rooms opening in Vegas recently posters here have written about $1 an hour or so. Don't expect much, enjoy the free drinks and you will never be disappointed.

If its comps you want, play BJ for four hours and day at $25-100 a hand and pray you don't hit a bad streak.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:25 AM
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If its comps you want, play BJ for four hours and day at $25-100 a hand and pray you don't hit a bad streak.

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Assuming you average $60 bet(s) per hand, 2 hands per minute, and use basic strategy for a house edge of 0.5%, the Expected Value of your 4 hours of play would be a loss of $144 (not including tips). [I'm not sure whether the 2 hands per minute assumption is realistic.] What type/value of comps will this earn?
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Old 05-30-2005, 01:07 PM
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If its comps you want, play BJ for four hours and day at $25-100 a hand and pray you don't hit a bad streak.

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Assuming you average $60 bet(s) per hand, 2 hands per minute, and use basic strategy for a house edge of 0.5%, the Expected Value of your 4 hours of play would be a loss of $144 (not including tips). [I'm not sure whether the 2 hands per minute assumption is realistic.] What type/value of comps will this earn?

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this varies everywhere - but the standard is 40% of your average bet per hour. thus the $100 bettor is making $40/hr while the $10 bettor is making $4/hr, etc.....

exceptions would be if your a new player they will be extra generous or if your a regular player they will be extra generous... Just ask to be rated - and if your playing and the floor is in a good mood - you'll get food for sure and maybe a comped future visit.

If your winnning - make it appear as if your losing
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Old 05-30-2005, 03:59 PM
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this varies everywhere - but the standard is 40% of your average bet per hour. thus the $100 bettor is making $40/hr while the $10 bettor is making $4/hr, etc.....



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This is a HUGE overestimate. I used to be a BJ floor supervisor on the east coast.

Here is how the comp system breaks out.

up to 25$ avg bet: 10% comps on avg bet per hour. 10% x 25 = 2.50/hr.
26-100 avg bet gets 15% avg bet per hour. 100 x 15% = 15.00/hr

Over 100 gets around 20% of average bet per hour.

I'd love to find a casino that gives 40% avg bet per hour in comps. That's a little high though.

Comps on table games are based on the house edge of the game. Therefore BJ and Bacc get the least comps, then dice is next. The highest will be roulette as that has around a 5.3% house edge.
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Old 05-30-2005, 05:49 PM
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20% of your ADT.
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Old 05-30-2005, 06:42 PM
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I conclude from your figures that a basic strategy blackjack player cannot realize a positive EV (with comps) playing with a house edge of around 0.5% Are there any BJ games in Vegas that have a much lower house edge following basic strategy? Any "Pontoon" games or other BJ variations like can be found at internet casinos?
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:22 AM
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not all AC poker rooms give comps to players. I'm sure the three large spots (Borg, Trop & Taj) do, but I know for a fact that Bally's and Harrah's do not (yet).

as for blackjack, the general rule of thumb is that you will get about 20% of your average flat bet returned to you in comps. if you assume basic strategy with AC rules is just under 0.5% house edge and you get dealt 60 hands an hour, then the comps are worth about 0.33%. the exception would be Harrah's and Showboat, where the Total Rewards program gives significantly less comps to table games in favor of slots and video poker.

in the long run, VP offers the fastest way to earn comps with relatively low bankroll risk. you won't make any significant money playing, but you can "pay" for meals and hotel rooms easier with 25c JoB than you would playing BJ for $25 a hand.
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Old 05-30-2005, 02:33 PM
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Borgata, Trop and Taj offer comparable comps per hour. $.50 to $2 per hour based on the game. Taj and Borgata make it easier to get extra comps, as you just clock in when you sit down, and clock out whenever you choose..... at the Trop you only get rated as long as you have a seat at the table. Overall, Taj gives the most value in terms of comps
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:01 PM
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Both the Taj and Borgata give $2/hour at 10-20 and higher. The Borgata comps are much better, in my opinion, as you can just use the card to get food at the snack bar (fruit salad and caesar salad available) or any restaurant. The Borgata food is far more edible. At the Taj, you have to get a comp slip for the mediocre food venues.
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