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Old 05-27-2005, 08:43 PM
cfjr2 cfjr2 is offline
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Default Did I play this too slow?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kh Ks (three of a kind, kings).
UTG+2 has Jh Ah (one pair, aces).
MP2 has As Qc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 14 BB. </font>
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Old 05-27-2005, 08:47 PM
2+2 wannabe 2+2 wannabe is offline
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Default Re: Did I play this too slow?

yes

cap flop, bet turn, bet river

don't put results
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Old 05-27-2005, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Did I play this too slow?

I generally don't give credit to a flopped flush until they raise my turn bet.
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Old 05-27-2005, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Did I play this too slow?

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yes

cap flop, bet turn, bet river

don't put results

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I generally don't give credit to a flopped flush until they raise my turn bet.

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Old 05-27-2005, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Did I play this too slow?

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yes

cap flop, bet turn, bet river

don't put results

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I don't know if it's right or wrong but I would usually call the flop 3 bet and c/r the no-club turn in this situation and call down UI if 3 bet on the turn.
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Old 05-27-2005, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Did I play this too slow?

Cap the flop..Raise the turn as you are ahead of everyhand except AA and flush draw.. if 3-bet then call down.
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Old 05-27-2005, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: Did I play this too slow?

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yes

cap flop, bet turn, bet river

don't put results

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I don't know if it's right or wrong but I would usually call the flop 3 bet and c/r the no-club turn in this situation and call down UI if 3 bet on the turn.

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I think against 3 opponents you have lots of equity on the flop related to catching a full house, even if you are behind. I think a cap is correct.
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Old 05-27-2005, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: Did I play this too slow?

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yes

cap flop, bet turn, bet river

don't put results

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I don't know if it's right or wrong but I would usually call the flop 3 bet and c/r the no-club turn in this situation and call down UI if 3 bet on the turn.

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I think against 3 opponents you have lots of equity on the flop related to catching a full house, even if you are behind. I think a cap is correct.

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My thinking is if I cap the flop I can't c/r the turn so there's a decent chance the turn doesn't get raised at all when I bet out; thus missing out on the double turn bets. Plus, if the turn DOES get raised now then it probably means I'm behind to the flush.

SO...if we call the flop we get to raise the turn whether we're ahead or losing but if we cap the flop the turn only gets raised if we're losing. The more I think about it the more I like my line. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-27-2005, 10:41 PM
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SO...if we call the flop we get to raise the turn whether we're ahead or losing but if we cap the flop the turn only gets raised if we're losing. The more I think about it the more I like my line. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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i can handle the call flop, c/r turn line (as your equity changes a lot given the turn card) - but when a safe card comes you HAVE to raise!! you check/called the turn and checked the river through. that's really bad.

you missed at least 4BB with your line
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Old 05-27-2005, 10:51 PM
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SO...if we call the flop we get to raise the turn whether we're ahead or losing but if we cap the flop the turn only gets raised if we're losing. The more I think about it the more I like my line. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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i can handle the call flop, c/r turn line (as your equity changes a lot given the turn card) - but when a safe card comes you HAVE to raise!! you check/called the turn and checked the river through. that's really bad.

you missed at least 4BB with your line

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You have me confused with the OP. My line is to call the flop and c/r the safe turn and bet out the safe river.
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