Big QQ hand

pauliewalnuts · #1 05-26-2005, 01:33 PM

I only had about 10 hands on BB at this point so I didnt really have a read. The button was somewhat of a maniac, so neither his turn raise or river raise scared me. He could have anything. But when BB 3bet the river, I wanted to throw up. Up until that point I had figured him for a 10. But his 3bet made me think maybe he did have the case four. It was the first bit of aggression he had shown throughout the entire hand and I didnt like it. Comments? No other choice but to call the river right?

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, Button calls, BB calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB calls, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, BB calls.

River: (15.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 24.75 BB

shark6 · #2 05-26-2005, 01:40 PM

I cap the river, what the heck. Most of the time you’ll see a pocket pair or T pay you off. I wouldn’t be afraid when there is only 1 card that beats you when it was probably folded PF if anyone was even delt it.

Nick C · #3 05-26-2005, 01:54 PM

I think there's a good chance BB has a 4 (or maybe TT) and went on a deep slowplay, figuring Button would help him bet his hand.

I'd make him show it to me, but I wouldn't expect to win.

27offsooot · #4 05-26-2005, 02:38 PM

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I cap the river, what the heck.

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I like to light money on fire, what the heck. You can argue that folding the river is best, but I couldn't get myself to do it. Capping is awful.

pauliewalnuts · #5 05-26-2005, 03:03 PM

Capping definitely seems excessive. In fact, it never entered my mind. Folding did, but only briefly, as the pot was way to big to fold what I thought was the best hand up to this point.

shadow29 · #6 05-26-2005, 03:05 PM

I cap the river, what the heck. Most of the time you’ll see a pocket pair or T pay you off. I wouldn’t be afraid when there is only 1 card that beats you when it was probably folded PF if anyone was even delt it.

TT also wins.

OP: I think that your play here is reasonable.

pauliewalnuts · #7 05-27-2005, 11:13 AM

For those interested:

Button shows: Js3s
BB shows: Kc4c

MHING

brettbrettr · #8 05-27-2005, 12:21 PM

BB has a 4, but I guess the call is ok. But, really, he's got the 4.

Siingo · #9 05-27-2005, 12:38 PM

Call! You cant fold. You will probably not win but if you fold and see that they have something like a T then you will fell so bad that you probably tilt after that. Maybe not much but it will probably cost you more than the 2 BB you try to save...

pauliewalnuts · #10 05-27-2005, 01:41 PM

It sure does look that way, but without a read on BB and being 95% sure you're ahead of the button, would you really lay this down for two more?