Probably a basic PF question but....

aK13 · #1 05-23-2005, 04:15 PM

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, <font color="red"> MP1 raises </font> , 2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero ?

shadow29 · #2 05-23-2005, 04:17 PM

This is a clear fold.

scotty34 · #3 05-23-2005, 04:19 PM

Getting 6.5:1 immediate odds (7.5:1 after UTG+2 calls), I would muck this right away. You have zero high card value. The straight potential of 23 is somewhat limited. The flush draw won't come enough for you to be paid off, and when it does, you have the lowest possible flush.

Supern · #4 05-23-2005, 04:19 PM

You are kidding right?
Fold!

He is raising a limper not just the blinds so
he probably has something and just pairing will not
do you any good.

scotty34 · #5 05-23-2005, 04:20 PM

I don't think I would call until 56s, or maybe even 67s.

Ricardido · #6 05-23-2005, 04:22 PM

The suited connectors value increase in multiway pots, but personally i dont like playing real small connectors like 23 and 34. My very lowest ill play is usually 56s on the big bind. The reason is that with 23 you to hit a flop hard to make it worth the extra bet. Call it weak tight but i prefer waiting for better hands to put my bets in.

In limit i find myself wanting to play the high suited connector from the BB KQ,QJ,JT if facing just one raise.

aK13 · #7 05-23-2005, 04:24 PM

Damnit.

Well I lost quite a bit on this, cuz I hit my flush on the turn, but board paired on the river and filled PF raiser's boat =(. What odds do you think would be needed to play something like this from the blinds? 12:1?

DMBFan23 · #8 05-23-2005, 04:24 PM

I usually call this unless the PFR or CO are TAGgy/2+2 caliber. then my implied odds arent as good.

AmarilloJim1 · #9 05-23-2005, 04:27 PM

Fold.

scotty34 · #10 05-23-2005, 04:27 PM

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Damnit.

Well I lost quite a bit on this, cuz I hit my flush on the turn, but board paired on the river and filled PF raiser's boat =(. What odds do you think would be needed to play something like this from the blinds? 12:1?

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Yea, that probably sounds about right. Personally, I don't like to ever play a hand like this, except with a lot of limpers and me being the the SB. I'm also a little tighter than I should be though at 17.5 VPIP.