Utterly clueless play of TT early

gasgod · #1 05-22-2005, 12:13 PM

Second hand of tourney, so no reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) 5/1 converter

UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t875)
Hero (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t740)
SB (t785)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, 1 fold, MP2 calls t15, Hero calls t15, 1 fold, Button calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t90) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t40, Button raises to t80, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls t80, MP2 folds, Hero calls t40.

Turn: (t330) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets t15, UTG+2 calls t15, Hero calls t15.

River: (t375) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets t375, UTG+2 calls t375, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1125

In retrospect, I think TT should be played strictly for set value at this stage. Comments?

GG

microbet · #2 05-22-2005, 12:28 PM

When 6 people see the flop I don't have a lot of confidence in an overpair.

adanthar · #3 05-22-2005, 02:24 PM

PF is OK with two limpers in front and fewer chips.

Make a bigger bet on the flop with all the checks - 60 should do it. 40 suggests weakness and you're asking to be bluff raised, which is probably what the button did. The coldcall behind is worrying but on this board I think it's a draw or a 77 more often than a set. Still, so far, having only bet 40 you just have a call here.

The turn is great for you and after the button betting a whopping 15 and UTG calling his draw you should be CR pushing around 100% of the time.

I think you had the best hand on the turn and may even have had it on the river although you can't call; button is often bluffing here and if UTG doesn't have 77, his next most likely hand is 65.

microbet · #4 05-22-2005, 02:39 PM

I think button has you beat. 15 is a really wierd bet for someone on a draw.

xLukex · #5 05-22-2005, 02:48 PM

Not entirely too sure what button has here. A 15 bet followed by a 375 bet is kind of hard to read, but chances are he does have you beat.

I agree that pocket pairs should be played for set value in the first few levels, and I may go to a *cheap* showdown here, but chances are button is slowplaying a straight/boat/trips/2 pair. There is a large range of hands that beat you.

adanthar · #6 05-22-2005, 02:54 PM

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Not entirely too sure what button has here. A 15 bet followed by a 375 bet is kind of hard to read, but chances are he does have you beat.

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Chances are he improved on the river. 55 is very possible and so is 77 (but UTG may have that.)

Taking the turn as a standalone, you've almost certainly got the button beat and probably have UTG unless he filled up.

microbet · #7 05-22-2005, 02:59 PM

Well, I'm curious about what the button was betting 15 with on the turn, so I hope we get the results.

gasgod · #8 05-22-2005, 03:07 PM

Thanks to all for your comments. Very helpful.

Button had 55 for a full house. UTG+2 had A2o for a straight.

I escaped with most of my stack intact, but feeling that I played it badly. At least I was right about something.

GG

adanthar · #9 05-22-2005, 03:09 PM

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Thanks to all for your comments. Very helpful.

Button had 55 for a full house. UTG+2 had A2o for a straight.

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microbet · #10 05-22-2005, 03:16 PM

Ahh, the bet of 15 just makes no sense.

When you were assuming hero was ahead on the turn were you factoring in the fact that it makes it a semi-bad beat and thus a more likely post?