Sorry to post an AA hand...

[HollywoodDB]

Only been here for about 20 hands or so, no reads.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (16.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero...?

BB check raises the flop and turn, he must have me crushed...right? Raise, call or fold?

[istewart]

Ugh...

The pot is huge but I would fold the flop. I think you're behind here too much and it will cost you many bets to get to a SD.

Also, wtf with the LRR without reads?

[Redd]

Straightforward fold IMO. BB might be the type that gets excited when everyone bets, but he's more likely pushing a good hand with his check-cap. You're usually at least second best here, and you'll be paying alot to prove it.

[Firefly]

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Only been here for about 20 hands or so, no reads.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A.
Hero Calls

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WTF?!?

[gvibes]

BB has an 8 here just about 100% of the tieme. Unless you have a donkish read on him, fold the flop.

I also hate the LRR - it lets crap in.

[milesdyson]

Sick check cap by BB.

I honestly think with implied odds that making the flop call is the right move. You are getting like 10:1, and I think you're easily making up 15-20+ sb if you hit an ace on the turn. But you missed, so fold.

edit: bleh on your readless limp reraise, and I stick by calling this flop, despite popular (wrong) opinion.

[imported_AAcheckraise]

"istewart":

I agree with your resoning, but only because the chance of QQ 88 8x making your 1:11 draw to a full from 2 pair not clean, not to mention you don't have the odds to call, pot to you is 1:9 not 1:11 not to mention that you need to guess that you may just be drawinging to a 2 outer (1:23)

so unless 2/3 of theese players bet on nothing, I WOULD NEVER CALL here, but thats just my 2 cents...

[HollywoodDB]

lol, I know, I was feeling sassy. It's terrible.

[Marquis]

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"istewart":

I agree with your resoning, but only because the chance of QQ 88 8x making your 1:11 draw to a full from 2 pair not clean, not to mention you don't have the odds to call, pot to you is 1:9 not 1:11 not to mention that you need to guess that you may just be drawinging to a 2 outer (1:23)

so unless 2/3 of theese players bet on nothing, I WOULD NEVER CALL here, but thats just my 2 cents...

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88 is the only thing we're worried about if we improve.

[HollywoodDB]

I know, as I explained to istewart, it's terrible.