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AA v KK?
you are in a 10 handed game and pick up KK UTG. what is the prob that some1 has AA? how would i figure this out?
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Re: AA v KK?
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you are in a 10 handed game and pick up KK UTG. what is the prob that some1 has AA? how would i figure this out? V [/ QUOTE ] I saw this same question last night on the WPT except it was for a 6 handed game. They claimed the answer was 44-1. I do not understand how that is correct. Can anyone explain it. Thanks. |
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[ QUOTE ] you are in a 10 handed game and pick up KK UTG. what is the prob that some1 has AA? how would i figure this out? V [/ QUOTE ] I saw this same question last night on the WPT except it was for a 6 handed game. They claimed the answer was 44-1. I do not understand how that is correct. Can anyone explain it. Thanks. [/ QUOTE ] They're wrong then, it's 40-1. 5*6/C(50,2) - C(5,2)/C(50,4) = 40-1. For 10 players it's 22-1. See inclusion-exclusion principle. Come on, this gets asked every week. Next time type into the search engine. That's what it's there for. |
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Re: AA v KK?
What I'm wondering, is how the hell did they came up with 44 to 1? I saw it too, so I know he's not misquoting. I've tried "screwing up" the math with every oversight I can think of. I can't get to 44-to-1.
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What I'm wondering, is how the hell did they came up with 44 to 1? I saw it too, so I know he's not misquoting. I've tried "screwing up" the math with every oversight I can think of. I can't get to 44-to-1. [/ QUOTE ] Replace C(50,2) with C(52,2). In other words, they didn't take the KK into account. That gives 1 in 44 which they could misquote as 44-1. |
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Indeed, I missed the most blatent possible mistake. Thanks for that. They forgot to exclude the K-K, and don't seem to know the difference between odds and probability, yet they figured out how to handle Inclusion/Exclusion, as you call it? Bizarre.
Edit: Scratch that...answer still rounds to the same odds. |
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Indeed, I missed the most blatent possible mistake. Thanks for that. They forgot to exclude the K-K, and don't seem to know the difference between odds and probability, yet they figured out how to handle Inclusion/Exclusion, as you call it? Bizarre. [/ QUOTE ] They don't really need the second term to get close. I once gave the WPT the answers for 9 and 4 handed here, along with a simple way to estimate the answer (which doesn't give 44-1). |
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Re: AA v KK?
Thanks for the answer guys.
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Re: AA v KK?
I believe this was a repeat of that episode. It was the Legends of Poker. Had to leave, but Doyle had Watkinson outchipped like 4 to 1. Not sure what year that was, don't watch much WPT.
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