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Old 05-16-2005, 12:17 PM
NUReedy NUReedy is offline
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Default Should I be the bitch?

Both opponents in this hand are Grade A crap. The BB has bluffed huge into a pot on a busted flush draw and showed it. The other player has called down many many times with any sort of pair on the board. Regardless, I was confused.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Button ($33.68)
Hero ($44.25)
BB ($6.51)
UTG ($67.65)
UTG+1 ($25.82)
UTG+2 ($55.98)
MP1 ($58.1)
MP2 ($50)
MP3 ($41.5)
CO ($20.5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, BB calls $1.50, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($7) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls all-in ($4.51), UTG+1 calls $5.

River: ($21.51) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets all-in $19, Hero ?????????
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Old 05-16-2005, 12:50 PM
The_Bends The_Bends is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the bitch?

Its an easy fold, no question. Even if these guys were bad enought to play hands that you beat that way then this isn't the hand to take their money, wait for a better spot down the line. Having the ass end of a 4 board straight is not a good situaiton to be in when someone bets a huge amount into a dry sidepot, even if they have a history of bluffing.

To be honest I'd have given up on the turn. Axo is a very unpleasent hand to have and loads of poor players will call with A7-T and they have you over a barrel. Against one player I'd continue to bet but against two you're in trouble.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:00 PM
jacknine jacknine is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the bitch?

i think your play on the flop is weak. You got top pair - crap kicker and thereīs 4 more players in the hand. What was the idea behind the $1.5 bet? Itīs not going to shut anybody out.
Trouble in such a spot is that if you make a bigger bet and get called youīll probably end up losing to a bigger kicker or two pair.
In this case, I would just have checked the flop and see what happens.
As for the river, I think itīs an obvious fold. If the players were as bad as you said, you can be pretty sure someone has a higher straight there.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:03 PM
The_Bends The_Bends is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the bitch?

Good point on the flop bet, if its going to be made it needs to be for $2.50
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:17 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the bitch?

Bet $5 on the river and fold to the push?

--Dave.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:42 PM
swolfe swolfe is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the bitch?

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Bet $5 on the river and fold to the push?

--Dave.

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too small of a bet. it'd be easy for someone with a decent read on OP to see that as a blocking bet and bluff raise.
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Old 05-16-2005, 02:43 PM
wall_st wall_st is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the bitch?

I hate playing AceX from the sb, especially if it is not suited, so I have to think that is your first mistake.

My line would something along checking the flop and hoping to go for a check raise overbet here hoping to take it down right there. If your opponents are really the morons you describe one of them will probably make a very small bet on the flop, several will call, then you can make your move.

If I don't take it down right there I am pretty much done with the hand considering what cards came on the river and turn.
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Old 05-16-2005, 03:23 PM
pho75 pho75 is offline
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Default Re: Should I be the bitch?

I was thinking the same thing.
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