Too Fast, too Slow, or just right? Flopped set HU

MrG · #1 05-14-2005, 07:44 PM

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 raises, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

mmbt0ne · #2 05-14-2005, 07:47 PM

I'd 3bet preflop, and 3bet the river.

Both of these plays should be almost standard absent a read.

jrz1972 · #3 05-14-2005, 07:49 PM

Looks good. I like the flop check-raise as opposed to a slowplay.

Edit: I missed that you didn't 3-bet the river. You should reraise here.

silkyslim · #4 05-14-2005, 07:51 PM

any reads on MP3. He might have tried to slowplay QQ on the flop to induce more action out of you. or could have something like A6s depending on what his pf raising standards are. I might want to 3 bet the river if i knew MP3 i didnt see the blind steal attempt. raise the river

aK13 · #5 05-14-2005, 08:16 PM

I 3bet the river. Only hands you're behind are 66 and QQ. If you lose, well, punch the wall.

Shillx · #6 05-14-2005, 08:29 PM

Why o why did you bet/call the river? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I kinda like check/raising the river here. I also kinda like check/calling. Betting this river just can't be right.

Brad

EDIT: There are pretty much two reasons to bet/call the river.

A) Villian might check behind with a worse hand that he will payoff with had you bet.

B) Villian might raise a worse hand either on a bluff or because he feels it is now good.

In your hand, (A) probably doesn't apply since people generally don't cap the turn and then check behind on the river. He almost surely will bet if you check to him. (B) clearly doesn't apply in this example since the villian isn't bluffing and the river could not have improved his hand at all (unless he was going nuts with TT). Even if he had TT, he would be raising with the best hand so even if he was going crazy with tens, you just got outdrawn.

MrG · #7 05-14-2005, 08:41 PM

Villian showed QQ and I punched the wall. I bet called the river cause I suck. Th last three days I have felt lost and like everytime I zig I should zag and just playing poorly. Making aton of mistakes. Thanks for all the input. Hopefully I can fix some errors and play better. Or just start drinking, go on tilt, and abuse other players with chat. I would say it is 50/50 right now.

Rev. Good Will · #8 05-14-2005, 08:45 PM

calling river---->not fast enough

I don't know how to feel about PF

istewart · #9 05-14-2005, 09:54 PM

So you dislike bet/3-betting as well?