Players showing other players live hands

[Sixth_Rule]

I was at a game at casino windsor the other day 1/2 NL 100max. There was a hand i was not involved in where two players where heads up on the turn at opposite ends of the table. Player A raised $40 and player B showed his hand to the guy next to him. The floor manager walked by and gave player B a very stern warning. Player B called and player A's hand ended up being good. after the hand the dealer informed us that player A could have called players B's hand dead if he had wanted to.

I am going to vegas on thursday so i just wanted to know if this was a typical rule.

[betgo]

I was at a final table of a tournament where there was one player allin and two others in the hand. The allin players shows his hand with a flush draw to the two players not in the hand on the other side of the table from the two players in the hand. He was warned by the floorman. At final tables, there is generally a floorman hanging around, and things like that will be noticed.

[bnobs1]

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I was at a game at casino windsor the other day 1/2 NL 100max. There was a hand i was not involved in where two players where heads up on the turn at opposite ends of the table. Player A raised $40 and player B showed his hand to the guy next to him. The floor manager walked by and gave player B a very stern warning. Player B called and player A's hand ended up being good. after the hand the dealer informed us that player A could have called players B's hand dead if he had wanted to.

I am going to vegas on thursday so i just wanted to know if this was a typical rule.

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In a cash game, no, in a tournament, yes.

[DrewOnTilt]

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I was at a game at casino windsor the other day 1/2 NL 100max. There was a hand i was not involved in where two players where heads up on the turn at opposite ends of the table. Player A raised $40 and player B showed his hand to the guy next to him. The floor manager walked by and gave player B a very stern warning. Player B called and player A's hand ended up being good. after the hand the dealer informed us that player A could have called players B's hand dead if he had wanted to.

I am going to vegas on thursday so i just wanted to know if this was a typical rule.

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I assume that the player that was SHOWN the cards was not involved in the hand. If this is the case, then the hand should not be called dead.

If the player who was SHOWN the cards was involved in the hand, I am not 100% sure of the correct call. The two options that I see are
1) call the hand dead
2) require that all players be shown the cards before play proceeds

or possibly 3) both of the above.

[Sixth_Rule]

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I assume that the player that was SHOWN the cards was not involved in the hand. If this is the case, then the hand should not be called dead.


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Thats correct

[bernie]

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I was at a game at casino windsor the other day 1/2 NL 100max. There was a hand i was not involved in where two players where heads up on the turn at opposite ends of the table. Player A raised $40 and player B showed his hand to the guy next to him. The floor manager walked by and gave player B a very stern warning. Player B called and player A's hand ended up being good. after the hand the dealer informed us that player A could have called players B's hand dead if he had wanted to.

I am going to vegas on thursday so i just wanted to know if this was a typical rule.

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In a cash game, no, in a tournament, yes.

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[BigBaitsim (milo)]

It varies by cardroom. At Canterbury, it is very common for players to ask friends or other players not in the hand to sweat a hand. Occasionally, a player not shown will ask to see the hand, and the dealer will oblige, but nobody ever admonishes players to not show during a hand.

[dcarlc]

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It varies by cardroom. At Canterbury, it is very common for players to ask friends or other players not in the hand to sweat a hand. Occasionally, a player not shown will ask to see the hand, and the dealer will oblige, but nobody ever admonishes players to not show during a hand.

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I play 6/12 to 15/30 at Canterbury. The 6/12, 8/16 it does not bother me, mainly because they are just doing it because they want to show you how they play there aces, or how they loose aces. But at 15/30 and 30/60 (in which I have played but not on a regular basis) it does. I am not friends with, but I do know many of the requlars. I don't want to name all the names of players, but I find it a big advantage for these guys to be sitting in maybe the 6,7,8, and 9 seats and sweat each others hands for 8 hours a day. Maybe i'm just bitter because I don't have some of the better players to do that with. As I write this I think about the hands I have sweated for people and it is ussally a piece a sht that one of the players who is just there because they want to gamble shows because they are really trying to put a bad one on.

[SheridanCat]

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In a cash game, no, in a tournament, yes.

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Not correct. At least if they're using Tournament Directors Association rules, which are pretty prevalent these days.

Regards,

T