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Old 05-12-2005, 05:03 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default This almost never means trips

however, should I still fold?

Party 3/6 game, I raise 1 bad MP limper in the CO with 77, BB and the limper call

Flop is Q 8 3 rainbow, BB and EP check, I bet, BB calls and EP folds.

Turn is another Q, puts a flush draw out there.
BB bets, Hero?

EDIT (5 BB in the pot about now)
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: This almost never means trips

I'm still folding, I think hands that beat you like 99 and and 8 are going to bet out that turn, along with the (I agree unlikely) trips. If that 8 were a 5, I'd definitely see showdown and I'd more than likely raise that turn.
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: This almost never means trips

There are 5 BB's in the pot when the action's on you?

I have trouble in these situations as well.

How strong is your read and what does "bad" mean?

I am at first tempted to raise the turn, but I think if you're gonna continue, you should call down, and check behind the river if checked to. I don't think a bet on the river gets you much money -- he'll fold any draw (or a bluff) and call with any 8. He might have a 3 that he'll pay off with, but I think that's pretty rare, and doesn't account for 50% of the time you get called.

So if I continue, I call down trying to see a showdown as cheap as possible. I think it's worthwhile to continue here, I've had alot of guys take shots at me like this at 3/6 with absolute garbage. Does anyone bet the river if checked to?

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Old 05-12-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: This almost never means trips

no read on BB, but MP was not skilled at texas hold em. he was not really instrumental in the hand except to show my AWESOME table selection skills and my badass isolation raise.

no strategy impact from that read though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: This almost never means trips

I would probably fold since you can't beat middle pair. If you had 99, I would raise and then check behind on the river. With AA you could consider calling the turn if you feel like he is drawing dead.

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Old 05-12-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: This almost never means trips

I'm still folding.

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Old 05-12-2005, 05:18 PM
JoshuaD JoshuaD is offline
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Default Re: This almost never means trips

Especially without a read, I call BB down.

Why is everyone afraid of an 8 here? Nearly all fish think that Q is a bad card for their pair of 8's, not a good card. They would be more likely to check/fold this turn with 8's than they would be to bet it. (Neither is very likely).

Readless I see a showdown here, and take the pot more often than what I need to be profitable.
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:19 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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Default Re: This almost never means trips

Raise, fold to a 3-bet, take the free showdown.
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: This almost never means trips

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Why is everyone afraid of an 8 here? Nearly all fish think that Q is a bad card for their pair of 8's, not a good card.

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Who said the BB was a fish?
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:20 PM
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I would probably fold since you can't beat middle pair. If you had 99, I would raise and then check behind on the river. With AA you could consider calling the turn if you feel like he is drawing dead.

Brad

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With 99 I just call down. With 77 I take your line.
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