Flopped a set

Raydain · #1 05-11-2005, 11:07 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (8 handed) converter

CO ($2685)
Button ($1970)
SB ($4050)
BB ($951)
Hero ($2968.50)
UTG+1 ($4986.50)
MP1 ($1141.95)
MP2 ($675)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $20, 5 folds, SB completes, BB raises to $40, Hero calls $20, SB calls $20.

Flop: ($120) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $60, Hero calls $60, SB calls $60.

Turn: ($300) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($300) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $250, BB folds, Hero raises to $750, SB calls $500.

Final Pot: $1800

Results in white below: 
SB has 4h 4d (three of a kind, fours).
Hero has Td Th (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $1800. 

comments?

sxz18 · #2 05-11-2005, 11:13 PM

Bet the turn.

Jonny · #3 05-11-2005, 11:24 PM

I don't like it at all.

Although the board is fairly safe, I think you need to build up a bigger pot.

I'd consider raising the flop, but slowplaying is good as well here.

On the turn, you must bet. Mabye one of them has a K. You need to build up the pot so you can make a good value bet on the river.

The river is fine BTW.

gomberg · #4 05-12-2005, 12:55 AM

wow - you really minimized the amount you could win here. Bet bigger in general and bet the turn for sure. Build the pot so you can somehow push the river and not make it an overbet.

also - did you consider a limp-reraise here preflop? I don't mind the early limp depending on the game, but when the BB min-raises out of position, I like a reraise to isolate a probably weak hand and be able to take it down on the flop no matter what hits most of the time.

technologic · #5 05-12-2005, 01:03 AM

when you check, what made hands will come on the river?

hands that beat you.

how many hands will pay you off big on the river without a big hand?

not many.

AZK · #6 05-12-2005, 01:23 AM

bet 150 on the turn

Edit: with or without a set here.

creedofhubris · #7 05-12-2005, 02:11 AM

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (8 handed) converter

CO ($2685)
Button ($1970)
SB ($4050)
BB ($951)
Hero ($2968.50)
UTG+1 ($4986.50)
MP1 ($1141.95)
MP2 ($675)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $20, 5 folds, SB completes, BB raises to $40, Hero calls $20, SB calls $20.

Flop: ($120) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $60, Hero calls $60, SB calls $60.

Turn: ($300) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($300) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $250, BB folds, Hero raises to $750, SB calls $500.

Final Pot: $1800

Results in white below: 
SB has 4h 4d (three of a kind, fours).
Hero has Td Th (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $1800. 

comments?

[/ QUOTE ]

I had the same scenario a couple days ago, I left $2400 sitting at the table because I failed to bet the flop. (Check/call, bet, check/raise, bad line to take with top set. Bet/call raise, bet/call raise (or get all-in), bet all-in would've been much better.)

When opponent is loose/aggressive (people who raise 4s count) you need to start firing early in case they want to "put you to the test" and in case they have a similar, but smaller, big hand. You are looking to stack these mofos.

Jason Strasser · #8 05-12-2005, 06:08 AM

The good thing about me when I am in my normal aggro mode is that I get his entire stack here every time.

-Jason

Skjonne · #9 05-12-2005, 06:22 AM

Wow. Even at NL2000 people minraises out of the blinds? There's just fish at all levels apparently

okayplayer · #10 05-12-2005, 06:27 AM

Checking the turn should be a crime.