Up against 2 fish - did I play this right?

SteveM · #1 05-10-2005, 10:19 AM

Both fish were VP$IP >60% and PFR ~ 2%. I had a pretty solid read on Fish 1 (100+ hands) and a weak read on Fish 2 (about 30 hands). I really had no idea what they could have had and am wondering if I played this right. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I'll post results later on.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 :#A500AF(Fish 1)/ calls, 1 fold, CO :#A500AF(Fish 2)/ calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Fish 1 checks, Fish 2 bets, SB folds, Hero calls, Fish 1 calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Fish 1 checks, Fish 2 bets, Hero raises, Fish 1 calls, Fish 2 calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Fish 1 bets, Fish 2 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

davelin · #2 05-10-2005, 10:21 AM

I'd probably bet this flop. Betting the turn is much better than check/raising the turn, do you see why?

xenthebrain · #3 05-10-2005, 10:21 AM

Flop & turn. Bet yourself and reraise the hell out of the turn.

The river check/call is fine on a double paired board

jrz1972 · #4 05-10-2005, 10:25 AM

I prefer to bet the flop. If everybody calls, that's fine since I get value on my flush draw. If a few people fold, maybe I can pick this up on the turn as a semibluff. Check-calling isn't necessarily bad but it's not standard line either.

You have to bet the turn. Check-raising is bad because you don't want to blast anybody out of the pot. (It's very unlikely anyone is folding a hand that threatens you, so you might as well build a pot).

Your play on the river is fine, except next time be sure not to double-pair the board.

Buckmulligan · #5 05-10-2005, 10:28 AM

Get at em' on that turn, bro.

SteveM · #6 05-10-2005, 10:59 AM

Thanks for the input. OK, I see I should have bet the turn. It would be a disaster if it checked through. Also, my RR of Fish 2's bet could/should have driven out Fish 1 and possibly even Fish 2 if he's bluffing. So I might only get 1 bet total out of them. If I bet out, they probably call and maybe raise. Is that better? Is this thinking more clear than whatever I was thinking at the table? I hated the river don't see how I could bet out after they already called my check-raise on the turn. Thanks guys!

Results in white below: 
Hero has 8c 6c (flush, jack high).
Fish 1 has As Ac (two pair, aces and nines).
Fish 2 has Qh Ad (two pair, nines and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 12.50 BB.

davelin · #7 05-10-2005, 11:00 AM

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Thanks for the input. OK, I see I should have bet the turn. It would be a disaster if it checked through.

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It also has the benefit of trapping a third player rather than raising to shut him out.