Lay down bottom set?

[nolefan21]

This is a hand from a weekly game I play in. Posting from memory, sorry, exact amounts may be slightly off.

8 players

It is fairly early, maybe 2nd or 3rd round of blinds. I am the chip leader, I recently took a players stack so I have a decent lead.

SB (Me) ~2200
BB ~500
Button ~850

Reads - BB is a bad player, very loose and will gamble with very bad draws. Button is a very good player, TAG.

I'm dealt 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I believe the BB was 30

3 limp, Button hesitates and thinks about raising but just calls, I complete, BB checks.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet out 150, BB calls, folded to Button who raises to 450.

What's your thinking and your move here?

I'll post the results later if anyone's interested.

Thanks.

[durron597]

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Button hesitates and thinks about raising but just calls

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How do you know this?

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I bet out 150, BB calls, folded to Button who raises to 450.

What's your thinking and your move here?

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This board has a 2-straight and a 2-flush and an unraised pot. I want people to pay the maximum to see the turn, so I push over the button raise. If button has AA then I double him up.

[nolefan21]

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How do you know this?

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I should have said this was a live game...I literally saw him make a move like he was going to raise.

[durron597]

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I should have said this was a live game...I literally saw him make a move like he was going to raise.

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Ah ok. My initial statement holds, though.

[Unarmed]

This would be much more interesting if BB had another 200 chips. Just push.

[Insty]

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What's your thinking and your move here?

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AA and 77 are the only hands you fear.
Many more hands would reraise you here A6, A7, possibly Ax, maybe a draw looking for a free turn card.
You are still in a good spot even if you lose.

No way am I laying this down. Reraise all in.

[willie]

pooooooooosh.


that is all.

if it's set over set- so be it, cards happen. more than likely though- this joker has ak/aq.

[Cleveland Guy]

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I should have said this was a live game...I literally saw him make a move like he was going to raise.

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Ah ok. My initial statement holds, though.

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In a live game - with your friends it's easy to pick up tells, I think you can know when a guy you have played with weekly for the last 4 months is itching to raise.

I was playing in my home game, it was late, I had 2 cards, looked down, saw they were crap, thought about stealing, and then looked at the player to my right eagerly waiting for me to act.

I change my mind and fold, sure enough he raises- gets called, and goes to showdown with his KK.

Good reads are easy to get with regulars, so I do believe the OP if he can read at all knew if the other player was messing around, or itching to raise.


As for the hand itself - it's just as likely he wanted to Raise AQ as AA here - so I push him all in.

[Tilt]

This is the easiest push ever. Don't even think about considering this as a spot to make a huge laydown, because 1) you have a set 2) the board does not make a made flush or set already possible 3) you have the villain well covered, 4) you are already well invested in the pot. I don't care if he flipped up aces, it would still be a terrible fold, cause 95% of the time he flips up a draw or something you have crushed.

[nolefan21]

That's exactly what I saw. I play with this guy every week. The read I got was from experience playing with him. After his flop raise, I did eliminate AA, as I know he would raise AA from the button with that many limpers, but 77 still worried me.

How would anyone act here if you could firmly put button on the flush draw. At this stage in the game, is it worth it to get 1/2 your stack in there with this? BTW, I was fairly sure BB was going to call.