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Old 05-08-2005, 01:01 AM
420 Cabeza 420 Cabeza is offline
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Default Folding Ak

Just curious if it's ever the correct play to fold AK to a raise. For example if an EXTREMELY tight player raises preflop and your almost positive they have either AA or KK. It seems that you'd be less behind with 22 at this point. Any feedback apreciated. Thanks.
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:00 AM
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Default Re: Folding Ak

Yes. If you know you're beat, fold AK.

If you haven't yet, read the section on overcards in SSH.
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: Folding Ak

May be I should clarify, should you ever fold AK preflop?
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:45 AM
Jacob_Gilliam Jacob_Gilliam is offline
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Default Re: Folding Ak

In limit? Nooooooo.......
In no limit it depends on the situation, but ill almost always call and play a flop.
By the way, what player only raises with AA or KK? If they're that tight, they probably wont raise with anything.
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Old 05-08-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: Folding Ak

In limit, it is rarely right to fold AK preflop. An example would be if an extremely tight player raised in front of you. Another example is if you are playing in a game that is usually passive, but there is a raise, a reraise, and a cap in front of you. In these situations, it may be right to fold AK.

In NL, it can be right to fold AK to a single, large raise. It is usually right to fold AK if there is a substantial raise and a reraise in front of you.

In tournament play, there may be reasons to fold stronger hands than AK, though the correct play in tournaments usually coincides with the play that wins the most chips.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Folding Ak

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May be I should clarify, should you ever fold AK preflop?

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Yes. If the other guy has AA or KK.
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Old 05-08-2005, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Folding Ak

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May be I should clarify, should you ever fold AK preflop?

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In limit hold'em, only if your opponent has shown you his pocket aces. If he has shown me his KK, I'm still seeing the flop.

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Old 05-08-2005, 08:37 PM
Dave H. Dave H. is offline
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Default Re: Folding Ak

If someone (even a tight player) raises and I have AK, I am almost always reraising...if I have AK, the odds are slim (not zero, but slim) that someone has AA or KK.
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: Folding Ak

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if I have AK, the odds are slim (not zero, but slim) that someone has AA or KK.

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This is a very important point. There are as six combinations to make another pocket pair, say queens. But because one ace and one king are "dead" in your hand, there are only three combinations to make aces or kings.

It's unlikely that you could know with certainly that a player will raise AA or KK but not QQ. If in doubt, err on the side of hanging onto Big Slick.

That said, today i made a huge mistake of calling a flop all-in bet by a set of aces with AK. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] In that case I should have known that the player, whom i'd read as solid, wouldn't be pushing with any hand I could beat.
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